yeah, i know the feeling. I was playing with the lights turned off, and I nearly s*** my pants a few times



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When you can hear your heart beating, I could have sworn it was my own in real life...

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i swear to god the developers put in glowing eyes to be triggered behind crates that turn off after a second so when you go over there, ready to kill the beast, there's one right behind you, and the glowing eyes were just an illusion. happened so many times and it gets me every time.

this game is ****ing scary as hell.

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[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited August 03, 2004).]

I hate to say I'm actually a tad disappointed...
I've been playing Halo2 deathmatch (beta) alot, and I'm playing this like that. I'm going around looking for enemies, thinking "it's too dark, damn flashlight" and killing whomever I can like it's deathmatch. I might have gotten slightly grossed out once or twice, but it's almost repetative. I don't know, maybe I have to be in a particular mood to actually get the "excited/scared" feeling. Excited yeah, the graphics rock, even on 800x640, but scared? Slightly surprised yet easily able to comensate because of too much dang deathmatch halo2 beta and quick thinking. (I usualy get 1st place in those games...play it too much :P)

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Doom 3 (for me anyways) is the type of game that you're scared to death of when you're actually playing it, but when you're discussing it it's, "Oh man it was so cool when such and such did this to me from behind!" -- however when I'm tired, much like now, I find myself laughing while playing because of some sort of suggestive pose the ragdoll has put a corpse in.

For me, being tired takes away from the experience, as well as having the lights on. Man.. I need a new video card. Playing in 800x600 on Medium still looks awesome, but to know that it could be ten times better is really nagging me. Must get surround sound speakers too!

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"I'm praying for mayhem, I'm praying for tidal waves, I wanna see the ground give way, I wanna watch it all go down..."

haha phoenixflame is just trying to fight it, he *really doesn't want this game* for some reason, and yet he keeps coming back into these threads

I was in Alphalabs (Either 1 or 2) going through a tunnel with those horrid spider grates along the floor. Well sure enough, spiders starting flowing out and raping me me with their too-many legs, when my mom walks up behind me and touches me. I wanted to cry.

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"I'd rather be hated for who I am rather than loved for who I pretend to be." -Janis Joplin

One thing that's kind of annoying is when there are enemies with guns that are a fair distance away. If it is pitch black, they can see you and aim perfectly, but you need to whip out a flashlight to find them.

I hope you all burn for this. I have no money... I must vow to stay out of this thread. I want this game.... I hate you. All of you. I'm gonna go cry.

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Holy crap.. that first encounter with the fellbeast.. OMFG, I wanted to cry.

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Talk about wanting to cry. I was going up to a recharge station, didn't notice a zombie, all of a sudden RIZZAPE.

I turned around and owned it, but still. Man this game is so friggin SWEET. Can't wait for the first boss. I've learned to conserve ammo by rushing the zombies and blasting them. One shotgun shell per zombie/cyberdemon. I would laugh at the ragdoll effects, but all my enemies get incinerated. XD

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http://www.martianbuddy.com/

YES!!!

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"Honey, you got real ugly."

Time for some screenshots! (Note: I only play on Medium right now. I'm going to try moving up and seeing if I DIE).


Cool camera.


I really don't think shadows should be completely solid like that. Maybe it's just my PC.


More solid shadows.


Chainsaws are so useless on Mars! Where are the jackhammers we ordered?!


Don't worry, I'm a doctor!


Oops.

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[This message has been edited by Vincent Valentine (edited August 04, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Vincent Valentine (edited August 04, 2004).]

Vince R0xx0RZ. And also, they're only solid because that's the technology they worked with while creating the game. They also went for an overall darker look. In newer games (S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) the shadows will be amazingly good, as far as soft shadows and everything. The best part of Doom 3 is the dynamic shadowing, and of course, the high-poly models. Woot.

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Yes, the shadows are good, but they shouldn't completely block anything. Light bounces off of everything, so even if there was one crate and one light in a room, some light would bounce back to the crate's shadow.

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"I'd rather be hated for who I am rather than loved for who I pretend to be." -Janis Joplin

I truly can't see how anyone can actually dislike this game. I am both shocked and appalled with you Jon.

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Nice screens Vince.

Bunch of questions for anyone who cares to answer:

How are the zombies?

George Romero zombies (i.e. shambling groaning, need to ventilate their cranium), or the same as the previous games?

How does it compare to Undying or System Shock 2? How are the sounds? Any music?

I see that there's some form of damage modeling from Vince's screens, just per-pixel "stencils" (as in Farcry) or is that an actual hole in the guy's head?

How's the AI? Do your opponents just rush you, or are all the neat things just scripted so that you'll see the same thing every time? Do you cooperate with any NPC at any time?

Any Dopefish sightings?

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The zombies are incredibly easy to take down, as they are slow and stupid. I usually just use the pistol to conserve ammo when I encounter a zombiem, sometimes I bonk them with the flashlight just for the hell of it. Over all the AI seems pretty good, enemies will duck behind cover, stuff like that. Especially in the zombie marines, those guys suck.

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The zombies are well done, but not terribly dangerous. They move slow, and are easy to pick off. All of the cool stuff is pretty much scripted. Once in a while you'll get ambushed, imps will crawl on walls to get at you (extremely cool). There is barely any cooperation with NPCs.

Imps are friggin creepy. They'll crawl around and just jump you from behind. Marines will take cover, move ahead, give cover fire for each other, really good AI actually. So far the Assault Rifle's served me best

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Well, they're zombies. They don't do much except punch you when they get close. There's a few variations, including flaming zombies, chainsaw zombies, and wrench zombies. Pretty much any gun will kill them, but the chainsaw is the most fun.


The sounds are what you'd expect. Booms, moaning, creepy voices. There doesn't seem to be any music, except for in the main menu.

Comparing it to SS2 is kinda hard though. It's definately scarier, but SS2 has a lot of exploration, stealth, and character building, while Doom 3 is more action oriented.


I didn't actually look that close, but I think it's just a texture.

Some opponents will rush at you. The Imps like to take huge leaps at you from twenty feet away. They're really scary when they jump at you right when you open a door. Most of the fun stuff (like the first time you meet a Pinkie) is scripted, but the rest is mostly go/do somewhere/something->spawn creature.

Occaisionally (Three or four times, so far) you cooperate with sentry drones, which lead you to the next area and shoot at enemies with a mounted machine gun. If I see another I'll take a screenshot. There's also a part where a scientist leads you through a dark corridor with his lantern, and you have to protect him from harm.


Huh?

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[This message has been edited by Vincent Valentine (edited August 04, 2004).]

http://www.dopefish.com/fishinfo.html

The Dopefish is a character from Commander Keen that has had cameos in many games, especially in those made by former id software team-members. Scroll down for examples.

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Since when did earth lose the ability to make flat windows? http://members.cox.net/whooz/Window.gif (wait for animation to load)

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"I'd rather be hated for who I am rather than loved for who I pretend to be." -Janis Joplin

They are just showing off DX9

At least I think that is what controls all the cool effects in this game, like the shimmering around flames, stuff like that.

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I just got to the second Alpha Labs level, and...wow. Intense is all I can say. Jon may gripe and whine about the darkness, but, then, they serve the purpose of hiding your enemies before they run in and claw your face off.

You also can't hold a flashlight and a gun at the same time, which I think was a really good idea. It forces you to hang back a little bit -- peek around the corner with the flashlight, check for enemies, then switch to a weapon and take 'em down.

The graphics are solid, even on medium detail, 1024x768. The anti-aliasing, however, hates me -- every time I set it, the game resets it when I load the game. The problem with this is that the anti-aliasing only goes into effect after you restart the game. Thus, I play the game and get JAGGIESJAGGIESJAGGIESJAGGIESJAGGIES on some smaller details (eyeglasses on people's faces are the most noticeable).

As for a comparison against System Shock 2 and Undying, I haven't played SS2, but I think that DooM3 is just as scary as Undying, though in a different manner. Undying created a scary environment, while DooM3 uses the "anything could jump out of the shadows and murder you and your whole family" kind of scary.

Overall, so far it's been worth the $55.

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[This message has been edited by Wolfy (edited August 04, 2004).]

Alpha labs are the worst part of the game by far.

How far are you Jon? I'm at the Monorail Skybridge.

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"I'd rather be hated for who I am rather than loved for who I pretend to be." -Janis Joplin

I didn't feel like reading the whole thread. But...

-are there ally NPCs that help you? [edited: opps..already answered]

-are there other environments other than inside the base? Like outside?

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[This message has been edited by Echoman (edited August 04, 2004).]

yeah im stuck at the monorail skybridge. after i leave the airlock and go kill those two skullheaded roket throwers out on the mars surface, i dont know where to go. the only door i can see is locked, so i have go back back to the orignal airlock or i die.

other than that... wow... does anyone else by instict turn around when the sreen gets all red? i always think a fireball thrower is gonna spawn behind me. that red screen scares the crap out of me.

yeah echoman, there's mars surfaces inbetween sections of the base.

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[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited August 04, 2004).]

How did the forces of Hell get rockets?

Maybe I shouldn't question.

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For those running ATI cards, there are new BETA drivers out that you may want to look into. I'm currently downloading them, I may have a report back later if they do enhance Doom 3, but if i get too engrossed in that game, i can't promise to come back to the boards in a timely manner

http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4547.html


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Cazor, I just beat the area you're stuck on. What you have to do is enter that ruined building and climb the piles of junk. It will lead to the roof, which has a catwalk to another doorway. (You'll get attacked by a cacodemon, though).

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"I'd rather be hated for who I am rather than loved for who I pretend to be." -Janis Joplin

oh, sorry, heh i already got that done. on delta labs 1 now... thanks anyways though.

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what the crap are you talking about... I just said something about I don't want to play it if I can't blast Hey Yea and not miss critical dialogue, and being a doom game, I don't expect there to be much dialogue.... unless it has REALLY changed that much... but from what I have read in this thread it doesn't sound like I will be buying this game.

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oh look... my sister is in the game...



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there is most definately music... some of the booms in certains areas are actually part of the music the music isn't like some games where it doesn't fit at all but it fits perfectly

oh and how many of you also noticed this


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[This message has been edited by DrkJedi82 (edited August 04, 2004).]

It's all OpenGL, pixel and vertex shaders 1.3.

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