I'd also like to mention that I'm an athiest, and I believe in sex after marriage, or at least, structure. Sex is a responsability, and ANYTHING can happen. You should be in a secure and good atmousphere, considering you were to catch an STD from your partner, or spawn.

JediKirby

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Live on, Adam.

I used to think that was a myth until James Bond kicked down my bedroom door and battled that evil clown who was hiding under our bed. Learn from my mistakes.

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Banks and banks of humming machinery! I've never seen so many knobs. We're going to have to do something, Charlie! Try pushing that button there. No? How about that one? No, not that one either. I know! I'll try pushing this one. Hold my hat will you? Good fellow.

Excatly, plus, culture has changed alot since then in general.

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Kill Your Idols!

when in doubt, keep your mouth shut...

so i will just say this: sex ed should be tought in schools... no parrent mentioned sex to any of us untill i was like in the 10th grade. i had to find out about periods from my sister, not my mom.

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I'm not entirely sure I understand right, but if you're saying private schools teach better morals... Woooow-whee.

Lets just say I've been to one private christian high school dance. (The type of school that would have the best morals, right?) Lets also just say that that was five dances too many.

Some private schools might /teach/ better morals than others, but it is up to each individual kid to accept and adopt that set of moral values. I think that often in a christian private school, these values are smashed into these poor children's brains so much that it becomes cliche, and the kids don't do it.

Might not be true, but that's been my experience with private religious high schools.

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Sex Ed: Masturbation is perfectly healthy blah blah...

CCD: You masturbate..you go to hell...have sex...go to hell....think about sex....go to hell....and don't even think about holding hands with a female....HELL!

I remember we had a guest speaker on sex at CCD and i asked 'What does the church think about masturbation?' I was being serious but everyone around me laughed :| anyway, the lady said "We belive that the body is a holy temple and that the only pleasures you need will come from god." (something along those lines) Then from the back this one kid yelled very loud "I already blew the roof off of my temple!" Ahhhhhhh good times.

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[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited August 24, 2004).]

I go to a Catholic high school. Freshmen year, I went to one dance. I haven't been to any since (going into senior year).

In grade school, I had sex ed, but it was about puberty, and was only for a week or so. Everything I've learnt about sex is from TV (like MTV specials. With all of its crap, MTV has one good use).

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Yeah, thanks Page, makes you think, doesn't it? It's a very good point. If you wait until you're 21+ to get married, you're already past your sexual prime. I sometimes forgot that people got married that young in those times. Still, the significance is placed on marriage, not age. Fornication is fornication whether you're 16 or 97.

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Have a good one,
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No, I meant that private schools teach morals, the kind that those conservative parents try to get public schools to teach, instead of the beautiful, judgmentless, assumptionless and nuetral teaching you get at a public school. The only moral they force on you, is responsability. If you want anything more sugar coated, pay for private school, or hold them that day and teach them yourselves: *****.

JediKirby

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Live on, Adam.

Haha, SAJN said "nuts."

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i didn't know the bible was a romance novel...

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Ezekiel is a frelling perv.

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

What I'm trying to say, is that we shouldn't even have to be doing this. 9 years old shouldn't even have problem with this. But they do? And you think stupid sex ed. will help that! Ha! Fat chance. Sex should only be after marriage. It's best for every one that way. But, many times, I worry that they don't teach sex after marriage. They teach you to be care full and to have abortions. You want to know why this is a problem? It's parents who don't care about their kids. The to busy pursuing there stupid carriers to have one parent be involved in there kids life. They don't care about disciplining the kids, and they spoil them. The kids hate the parents and the parents hate the kids. So they’re brought up by the TV, and that’s were we are today. Having to teach 9 year-old’s about sex. Sex ed. certainly won't help it and there's no easy fix. I'm just sickened about how stupid and selfish our culture has become. If you can’t see a problem here I worry about you.

Obi: Every sex ed. class/session I've ever known gives the option for the parents to withdraw their kids from it and teach it to them themselves. What exactly is your problem?

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

That the parents don't care that there little kids are having sex. Parents just don't care anymore. They'd rather peruse there carriers at their kids expense. The poor kids lives are going to be a mess, epically the girls'. It just makes me sad and it should you, too.
Like I said, there's no easy solution.

It's still possible, you realize. I'm 19 and a virgin. Should marriage factor in anywhere, it's going to be post-college (read: 22+).

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Is that through choice?

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why? if the kids forget to use condoms, they deserve what they get if they knock the girl up. Kids are going to do it no matter what anyone tells them, so why bother?



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I had sex when i was 15, and i just had sex yesterday, none the less the experiences are similar, no matter what the age. it is important to educate kids about the problems with unprotected sex, seeing how kids will do anyway. they should just be doing it right. i think the age of 10 is a little young, but it is stuff that needs to be said.

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Age: 14. The only thing my parents taught me about sex was how to put on a condom. They were really cool about it, but that's it. My parents care about me, and they also pursue their carriers. They are living seperatly, but my dad comes home every chance he gets to spend time with the family. It's really cool having one of the rare rare rare families that are still together and successful...

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I didn't learn about Sex ED from my parents, but I assure if I had a question, my parents would answer it right then and there. My parents are awesome, they have taught me so much about everything, who cares if the public school system taught me Sex ED.


And to say that because my parents didn't teach me about sex, it means they don't care about me? That’s just plain ignorant.


By the way, most parents these days still care about the child more than anything. Sometimes that may be covered by everything else, like a job they are trying to get a higher rank in, but when you think about, the only reason they are doing that is so they can support their kids better than they do now. SO while is may look like they are neglecting the kids, the fact is, everything they are doing is for them. It just matter how you look at it. Plus, most (mind you, there are some parents that care little about their children, but as much as you'd like to think the world is corrupt these days, they are still few and far between) parents would give up that job immediately for they're kid(s).


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Kill Your Idols!

my dog and some peanut butter taught me about sex ed.

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You were really desperate, weren't you?

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I feel sorry for the dog. That's messed up.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

*checkes post count* Hmm I need about 10 more of these threads to get to 1000 posts...

Seeing as how I'm an 11 year old going on 12 in today's society (:P) I feel the need to speak up. I know a lot of crap goes on, and that parents loosen up on their kids quite a bit nowadays, and sometimes a bit too much. This can be good, and yet, it could cause bad things. My parents are freaking nazis, but I still get to watch R rated movies (occasionally) and play M rated games. But, I've been playing these for 6 years, and watching them too. That is not good. Learning these things at my age, are, in my opinion, about the right time. But I'm not talking about sexual things, I'm talking about cussing and stuff. If the parents don't crank down enough on the kid that the kid leanrs about sex from TV, they have some problems in my opinion. Sex should be viewed as a bieutiful thing, but it shoudl also be told to the child as a MAJOR responsibility. I mean, 1. getting prepared. If you don't wanna be a dad/mom real young in life, GO BUY SOME CONDOMS OR BIRTH CONTROL PILLS! 2. look at the risks and make sure you're willing to risk them. 3. if you don't get prepared...can you deal with the consequences? And parents should be there to answer any question the child has, be it personal, or general. One problem today is that kids' parents don't seem to care about censoring anything, or watching what they do, so the kid has sex, or gets overjoyed with the freedom and abuses it.


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The kind of not caring I'm talking about isn't just lack of sricktness. It's crimminal. Be glad you have parents that care. Many many kids don't and they'll end up haveing horrible lives.

Horrible lives isn't quite right. More likely (in this scenario) we're talking about having a child earlier in life than planned.

A short childhood yes, less career opportunities yes, horrible life, no way. I know people who've had a child too early, and not only has she enriched their lives, she's a damn funny kid. (she's learned how to say "no". She just says it whenever you say anything to her - it's so damn funny!)

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If at first you don't succeed, lower your standards.

Obi, did you even read the post I made about the 9 year old getting pregnant?

Children see sexually-oriented things on TV all the time. Do you think that somehow they're just going to magically make the association that sex can lead to pregnancy and STDs?

I'm reminded of that article someone posted a while back about a married Christian couple in Germany who were raised by super-conservative parents that never mentioned sex to them. The spent 10 years married and couldn't figure out why they weren't having any children. They ended up going to a fertility clinic. Turns out they weren't having sex... because they didn't know anything about it.

Sure, sex ed. isn't important.

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Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
Worship Examples - Christians' love for God should be seen and heard, not merely talked about. It is through actions that one is determined to be Christian, not through words. Words (and thoughts, as well) deceive even one's own self, but the heart speaks truth.

Actually, most Christian do believe in it; it's just that many don't follow it. I doubt anyone follows all aspects of what they believe all the time. That's a bit beyond human ability. They're called ideals for a reason. And no human is ideal, so... yeah. Haha! That's great.
The only thing the Bible says toward masturbation is that if your seed passes from you, you are unclean. But of course to uber-conservatives, unclean = sin. Heh, if that's true, pork = sin, which makes no sense. The truth ain't always pretty. Men don't reach there sexual peak until somewhere between 16 and 20. Women don't reach it until somewhere around their mid 30s.

Stop letting your hormones tell you what to do. Think with your head, not with your other head.

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Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
Worship Examples - Christians' love for God should be seen and heard, not merely talked about. It is through actions that one is determined to be Christian, not through words. Words (and thoughts, as well) deceive even one's own self, but the heart speaks truth.

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The pork = unclean was valid at the time it was writtne because pigs tended to carry various diseases at the time. That was law to keep people alive and healthy.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Because Obi didn't read this at ALL.

JediKirby

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Proud Leader of the Minnessassian Council

Live on, Adam.

No-one read my last post. Try reading it, and then respond.

You made no valid point. Period.
You keep saying is that "people will be messed up."
Prove it already. ^I'm going to keep quoting myself until you get it.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance.

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It's funny, he complains that no one reads his posts, but then ignores any valid point made against him. It's like he has a point, and won't let common sense get in his way.

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I find it really entertaining that Obi's arguments follow a certain pattern nearly every time. His premises are usually very subjective, being mostly formal fallacies lacking any kind of logic. Whenever he answers someone elses argument, he fails to use anything but ad hominem ,post hoc or straw man -arguments.

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Yeah, you stay here and take life seriously. I'll go and have some fun.

[This message has been edited by Morpheus (edited August 25, 2004).]

You are missing my whole point. You have been missing my whole point since my second or third post.

Let me re-state *again* simply. 1. I think that it's *bad* that parents have become so wrapped up in their personal lives that they care so little for their kids. And that this condition has caused kids having to be told not to have sex even before they have even reached puberty. 2. I don't think that sex ed. will likely fix the problem. It may sway a few kids but most likely not the majority. I don't really think there is a ready solution that will work very well. I'm am just saying that this is a bad state of affairs. (9 year olds having sex, parents not caring to raise there kids so that doesn’t happen.)

I really don't know why you guys have been responding to my first post this WHOLE thread. At post 4 on the first page, I now realize that 10 year olds in the public schools have be kept from having sex. I say that this is a bad situation (that 9 year old need to be thought this) Yet for some stupid reason none of you read my posts, and keep responding to my first thread, and ignoring all of my other posts! ***News Flash*** ***I'm no longer arguing against sex ed. But I doubt it will work very well. It's like the whole "say no to drugs" thing*** ***/end News Flash***