I'm gunna be honest I've been following Massassi since I was 13 years old I just never say anything ��

Well it's doing all sorts of crazy **** to the global supply chain which should be pretty interesting for people who live paycheck to paycheck from jobs that sell exclusively stuff manufactured in China. And then when China gets fully out of quarantine all of their consumers will have lost their jobs and be unable to pay for healthcare.

People thought the effect on the stock casino was bad, wait until the effects on the ACTUAL economy become obvious!

Well it's doing all sorts of crazy **** to the global supply chain which should be pretty interesting for people who live paycheck to paycheck from jobs that sell exclusively stuff manufactured in China. And then when China gets fully out of quarantine all of their consumers will have lost their jobs and be unable to pay for healthcare.

People thought the effect on the stock casino was bad, wait until the effects on the ACTUAL economy become obvious!

That seems like a pretty niche segment though.

The first case in my Canadian home town contracted it while traveling through Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. At the time there was only 1 confirmed case in any of those states. The US has done absolutely nothing to stop this.

What do you want? It's a particularly bad cold. You want to shut down the whole nation for something that's probably equivalent to a bad flu season, just as the cold and flu season is ending?

What do you want? It's a particularly bad cold. You want to shut down the whole nation for something that's probably equivalent to a bad flu season, just as the cold and flu season is ending?

Jason Van Schoor
@jasonvanschoor
Registrar in Anaesthesia & ICM | NIHR UCL Academic Clinical Fellow | Racket sport fanatic & outdoor enthusiast | Instagram: jaynimble |
Mar. 09, 2020 2 min read
From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.

2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.

3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity

4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.

5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.

6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.

7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:

8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great

9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.

10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,

11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.

12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.

13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare.

"Um, actually, it's just a particularly bad cold," Obi_Kwiet grumbled to the charge nurse.

"Yes, yes, so you've told me, sir. Like it or not, their insurer still won the auction for this bed, and yours didn't," she replied. "Now please leave, or we'll call security. You can remove your own appendix at home."

Have you ever considered that all of the very concerned experts know more about their field than you do?

til italiy is a developing nation

the media in America wouldn't be making such a big deal out of this if a Democrat were president.

The age ranges I've heard as being primarily susceptible to this virus makes me think the media in America wouldn't be making such a big deal out of this if a Democrat were president. Still, I am coming around to believing this is a serious issue not really due to any new revelation but more that I'm paying more attention to it which isn't really saying much.

It is,

Started getting the chills and a headache last night. I’d been having a runny nose and then a sore throat before bed... and now I have an oral temperature reading of 101.5. No cough though so I’m hoping this is a cold.