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POLL: Do you look down on blacks?
2004-03-03, 3:52 PM #41
I'm not, I'm tryin to be objective.

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2004-03-03, 3:53 PM #42
....Then you're failing horribly.
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2004-03-03, 3:55 PM #43
Please, no surprises in the eye!

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2004-03-03, 3:56 PM #44
I have absolutely no problem with a person based upon the color of their skin. As others have said, I merely have a problem with behaviors and attitudes that some have. I accept a person based upon how they treat others, and how they behave. Just because I am a “white boy” who is a stereotypical nerd, does not mean that I hate a person of any race because they are of that race. I do, however dislike a person when it comes down to using negative language to describe anyone, being degrading towards women, or mutilating the English language to a point where a concerted effort must be made to understand them be it through speech or text.

If anyone might feel that I may not like them, please know that it is not because of race, it is because of the person you are.

When it comes down to the Rap/hip-hop culture, I have no problem with the music in general, but in many cases it is played to loud for my particular tastes, the artificially created base lines that I hear in a lot of songs tend to annoy the crap out of me, and I don’t appreciate a lot of the subject matters. There are a few rap songs I like, but it doesn’t seem to happen often

Edit: on the note of the doctor post:
I would do as someone said earlier, whichever was closer to my house.
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2004-03-03, 3:56 PM #45
How? Black doctors ARE rare uncommon...

Not because blacks are dumb or anything, its just true.

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2004-03-03, 3:58 PM #46
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by R_ivi_N:
Please, no surprises in the eye!

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Next time you'd best listen to me when I suggest keeping them closed then.

Amateur.

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2004-03-03, 3:58 PM #47
No, I don't. However, I think it's things like this poll that keep racism alive. If everyone is the same, why keep bringing up this kind of difference? Say people disciminated by hair color. They tried to stop, but someone kept asking everyone if people with blonde hair were better than people with brown hair. Or, say, someone kept insisting that all people with blonde hair be let into college no matter what their qualifications. That's really not helping the issue. I'm not saying it's good or bad--maybe they need the assistance, but it's definitely keeping the fact that people are meant to see the two "hair colors" as different up there in peoples' faces. The people will make of that what they will. Basically what I'm saying is that people need to make up their minds whether they want to be "different", or want to be "equal". Personally, I would prefer equal, but some people disagree.
2004-03-03, 3:59 PM #48
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Em Playa:
Strange in that they are uncommon compared to whites.

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...Maybe because, AS YOU JUST SAID, they are rare.
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2004-03-03, 3:59 PM #49
Isn't that number talk that you guys do mutilating the English language?

omgWTForx!!!! stuff like that?

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2004-03-03, 4:00 PM #50
Yes. Yes it is. I also think that is almost as dumb...hell, maybe even dumber.

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2004-03-03, 4:01 PM #51
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Isn't that number talk that you guys do mutilating the English language?</font>


You've turned irony into a cliche.


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2004-03-03, 4:03 PM #52
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SAJN_Master:
Whichever doctor isn't giving me a shot.

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best answer so far

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2004-03-03, 4:06 PM #53
I don't look down on people based on their skin pigmentation, their culture, religion or ethnic heritage.

I look down on people for their attitude, their level of intelligence, their way of speech, mannerisms, and generally everything they do. 'Gangsta' is not an ethnicity. Deal with it pal.
2004-03-03, 4:06 PM #54
Now, now. You can't call black doctors uncommon. Think of Dr. Dre.

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2004-03-03, 4:06 PM #55
I'm not mutilatin the English language - if that's what you're implying - cuz you can understand me, right?

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2004-03-03, 4:07 PM #56
That says more about our skill with English than yours.

Edit: No, you only try to act like one, look like one, sound like one and seem like one. There's no reasonable explanation for why you would bother going to extra effort to type the way you do, except for the illusion.

[This message has been edited by Jon`C (edited March 03, 2004).]
2004-03-03, 4:07 PM #57
I'm not a gangsta, either.

Just because I use slang doesn't mean I'm a gangsta.

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2004-03-03, 4:08 PM #58
Sure, most of the time. It's just the shortcuts and words sometimes. Like the kids in my school "Come over herr! Not over Therr" "Let me axe you a question" "Dawg"

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2004-03-03, 4:09 PM #59
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm not mutilatin the English language - if that's what you're implying - cuz you can understand me, right?</font>


Understand, yes. Mutilating the language, however, also yes.


-Fox
2004-03-03, 4:09 PM #60
Actually no it doesn't... I got a 730 on the English part of the SAT so I know my English... Just because I choose to not speak formal English all the time doesn't prove that you're better at it than me.

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2004-03-03, 4:10 PM #61
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">POLL: Do you look down on blacks?</font>


No.

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2004-03-03, 4:11 PM #62
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Now before anybody jumps down my throat for being a troll, let me explain what a parody is.

par-o-dy:n., pl. 1. a humourous imitation of a serious writing. A parody follows the form of the original, but changes it's sense to nonsense, thus making fun of the characteristics of the original. 2. any work of art that makes fun of another. 3. a poor imitation.


Now that site is not racist. It is mocking the misconceptions that many Caucasians have about people that are not Caucasian. It shows that people jump to conclusions, and try to force their own ways on others. It's about control.

In my opinion racism is a derivative of fear. People will always fear what they do not understand if they do not have an open mind.

Now saying; "They hate me because I'm black" is a racist thought, because, putting an opinion on someone that is different than you, is called “stereotyping”. And for all one would know they would hate one because one is a royal pain in the *** . Certainly there are those that are indeed of that persuasion, but many – if not most - are not.

On the other side of this spectrum is this, "They will hate me because I'm white, black people hate white people". That's an assumption based on nonsense. It's stereotyping. Placing an opinion on someone because of their skin colour is called "racial profiling". And "racial profiling" is just a fancy-smancy word the U.S. Government made up to replace "Racism" to have an excuse in the fight against terrorism. But let's not go there, ok?

Racism is based in fear and in lack of control. As long as there are humans about, there will be racism. Because fear and lack of understanding runs rampant. As long as fear and idiocy exist, you will get the final product of these ingredients.


[This message has been edited by Insipid (edited March 03, 2004).]
2004-03-03, 4:11 PM #63
... how am I goin thru extra effort to "type the way I do?" Are you magically spyin on me type?

I type like this naturally. I don't type with my fingers on the home keys either. Just cuz it may seem weird to you doesn't mean jack.

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2004-03-03, 4:12 PM #64
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Em Playa:
Honestly, if you saw a black doctor and a white doctor, both the same qualifications and everything.. who would you choose to go to?</font>

I had the coolest old black dentist for years. He was really kind and his sense of humor put you at ease. Totally qualified too. Now I have a white dentist because my old one changed his insurance and I can't cover him anymore. If I had the money I'd definitely go back. My current one has equivalent qualifications but he's not as personal or his bedside manner is crap.

It used to click in my mind when a black person was around because I was raised for the first 8 years in the suburbs and everyone was white. It wasn't that I saw them as inferior, just noticably different since I'd basically never encountered them before. Now after living in an urban area for the last 14 years and travelling a lot I hardly notice anymore. My best friend for 5 years or so was "hispanic" and now probably my closest friend is black. Their races had nothing to do with, I became friends with them based on proximity and similar interests.

Race is totally defined by culture so I see no reason to judge anyone based on it. I read an article once by this anthropologist working in Haiti and she asked this local leader how they discerned who was white from who was black. He said that anyone exhibiting *any* white phenotypes was labeled as white. Compare that with the US where *any* black phenotypes lead to you being labeled as black. It's really a very wide gradation from very light to very dark but your society determines which degrees of the spectrum label you as what. My anthropolgy instructor uses the example, "Colin Powell can get on a plane in the US as a black man and get off in Guatemala as a white man."

As for the culture and typing differently... I can't relate to it because it's not the way I speak but I'm not going to tell you to stop. From my year as an English major I learned one important thing: language is so subjective and transitory that any general rules you infer about it aren't guaranteed to be intact the next day. There are too many typos, slangs, variations etc. etc. on the internet to stop and **** my pants over each one so I've ceased to care.
2004-03-03, 4:12 PM #65
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Em Playa:
Just because I choose to not speak formal English all the time doesn't prove that you're better at it than me.</font>


Okay, so... instead of drawing upon your potential lack of skill with the language to explain your mannerisms, you would have us believe that you're simply pretentious? Anal retentive enough to meticulously reproduce ghetto-talk?
2004-03-03, 4:12 PM #66
I dont look down on blacks. I look down on idiots who ruin our society, regardless of race, economic stature or.. favorite kind of pie. Yeah, I hate idiots

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2004-03-03, 4:15 PM #67
I grew up in southern New Mexico. I was one of only a handful of white students in my middle school. My family was one of only a handful of white families in the whole city. We were harassed and abused simply because we were white. We moved to WA state and luckily, my younger sisters never had to put up with that.

So before you go around saying how whites are racist and everyone else isn't, consider the facts.

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2004-03-03, 4:15 PM #68
*cough* Keeping this in mind.

http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum1/HTML/033425.html

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2004-03-03, 4:17 PM #69
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Janitor Bob:
I look UP to them. They're a lot better at sports AND dancing. They've got rhythm and can jump.

I do look down on the Gangsta mentality- but I look down on whites and blacks equally that try to be "bad"
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2004-03-03, 4:19 PM #70
I can honestly say that I see blacks as equals. Although what I find strange is that in my lifetime, I've seen three times more racism from blacks towards whites than vice versa - and have been a victim of it on several occurances. Alot of that being organisations that compensate black people, or quotas for jobs or schools where they have to accept a certain proportion of black people, even if more non-blacks had higher scores. It's rather ironic that they're trying so hard to achieve equality that all they get in the end is a reverse effect - which is just as bad.

As for my opinion on rap, well that depends; I like any rap that has actual meaning and isn't some rich guy singing about how much bling bling he's got and how many times he got shot.

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2004-03-03, 4:19 PM #71
Also, what Brian said is totally true. IMy white school is 80% black/hispanics. In the lunch line they just run infront of everyone "You n**** f**** move. come on cracka' move. Gotta get my G-damn milk. What, what!!" or the people in gym. "I Will crush you in basketball white boy!" Just the *I'm better then you attitude* really pisses me off. Tehn you tell them to STFU and they get all offended. "What, want to take this out back mutha' f****!? What??! WHAT?!?!? dats' right! What I thought! uh!" and what really pisses me off is when some people say "Stop hatein' on me cause I am black"...They say this after you get mad at them for running infront of you and shoveing and pushing you every which way. I don't have a problem with black people, just the ones that act like they have special right. Or any race / people that think that.

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2004-03-03, 4:19 PM #72
Like I said before, I'm not "meticulously reproducing ghetto-talk."

I just type like this because I speak like this. Do you use the language you exhibited in your most recent post all the time, everywhere?

No? Why not? Because there are two different areas of language that the English language is broken up into... formal and informal.

I speak informal most of the time, unless I'm in the prescence of a superior, if I'm trying to get a grade, etc.

I just can't see why I'm gettin picked on because I type this way... I don't pick on any of you guys for the way you spell or your number speak or whatever. Just let me be.

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2004-03-03, 4:20 PM #73
i say let's just mix the races until we are all the same color and stfu about it...

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2004-03-03, 4:21 PM #74
Brian, I'm totally going to jack the last paragraph of your new announcement and use it in arguments on other forums I visit. That post count and registration date superiority thing is all over the place and you put what I was thinking into words. This xenophobic elitist crap is a plague.

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2004-03-03, 4:21 PM #75
What... blacks and whites are diffrent... um... wait a mintue... we act the same... we have the same organs... were all made of the same chemicals... our biology is exsactly the same except our outter cell colour... wait does that make us all human... OMG I THINK I GOT IT! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR COLOUR IS!

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2004-03-03, 4:22 PM #76
Hm, why doesn't anyone reply with a short answer to the question at hand?

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2004-03-03, 4:22 PM #77
Holy **** I leave for 1.5 hrs, and I come back to this. After living in the different areas that I have...I don't know. Racism sucks. It actually makes me depressed. But, it goes both ways, so what can you do? On BET Comic View they make fun of white people all the time. I know if some white comedian did the same thing, we would cry racism. Just how the world works.



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2004-03-03, 4:24 PM #78
Alot of it is stereotypes like

All asians are great at math.
All blacks listen to rap.
All whites are uptight humorless people.
All hispanics say "Hey essay" and have kids by the age of 13.

Although in my school, there are a large number of hispanics that are about 15-16 and have kids :/ Not saying I belive that stereotype, just saying I can see where some of these come from.

A lot of stereotypes come from films too. Hollywood sucks.



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2004-03-03, 4:24 PM #79
Brian, your example has nothing to do with my poll. Of course I recognize the fact other races get persecuted... it would be foolish not to. I'm merely interested in what you guys have to say about blacks at the moment.

Another question to throw out there: At the age of 35, what do you picture the average black male and white male doing as their job? Their family size, income, etc?

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2004-03-03, 4:25 PM #80
Another thing is BET. If we had WET we would get a whole bunch of crap.."OMG TELEVISION JUST FOR WHITE PEOPLE?!?! WHAT IS THIS THE 1950'S! YOU RACISTS!" then again that sounds more like a porno station...but still! :P

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Think while it's still legal.
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