[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]
I'm trying to find/prepare a whole bunch of silly things the bible says, if you give me a while.[/QUOTE]

http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html

Sorry, King James Version sucks, my translation says no such bull.

EDIT: Now I must go and take care of something, will reply later to more mistranslations and misinterpretations.

What makes the writer of the King James version's interpretation a misinterpretation compared to yours?

That's what I'm thinking... How do you know that his is false and yours is not?

God told him.

Duh.

<3

Exactly what version do you have?



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Perhaps you have the Wycliffe version, which seems to have Leviticus mysteriously removed (at least on the site I found)?

[Edit: Found 2 more.]

GOT EM..

What now, leviticuzzzz?

:p

The book of Romans wasn't mentioned at all.

Read.

Also, when you get back, Gold, read this: http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html

I don't believe in Jebus.

You don't believe he existed or you don't believe he's the Messiah? Because I'm pretty sure he existed.

Being gay doesn't mean that you go to Hell. Being gay just means that you are gay. They can still accept Christ and even change their sexuality.




Who said anything about hurting other people? I sure wasn't, making my comparison valid. Sins don't have to hurt people.

Also, leviticus says you can't eat shrimp. So what? Jesus declared that all food is now able to be eaten. I fail to see why Christians should stay away from shrimp.

I don't believe he was anyone special, I'm sure he was an intelligent man but alot of what he was I think was created by storytellers.

Reference, please?

You compared being in love to hurting someone. Unless you're some Linkin Park fan, that does not match.

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Reference, please?[/QUOTE]
Jesus declared all Mosaic Law (Leviticus, etc) to be bad (don't remember when), and since Paul's the only one who gets all emotional about homosexuality (I believe, been a while since I read the NT), the New Testament does not technically condemn gays.

-Hence my "lol mosaic law" comment earlier.

I'm sure you really believe this, but, for a moment, just for a moment, let's theorize. Let's say you're taking a dump and as you flush, a portal opens up in your toilet, and sucks you in into an alternative version.

You're born again, you live, you become a Christian. You're the same old hetero you. However, this is no simple portal-toilet-world. This is a GAY world. Let's say that here, in this gay world from outer space, I don't know, the chromosomes in males and females are switched, or something.

Here, in the Bible, it says that to sleep with a woman is sin.

Would you still accept Christ and start having sex with men?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that your sexuality is not something you just change when you want.



Heh, did you think of that comparison yourself? You know, if it's a good company (and I believe our world's not that bad), the boss (aka Teh Owner) doesn't have to go into details - the important thing is what gets the job done. So his managers come up with a good set of laws. All the stuff in the Bible is, surely, good for humanity in general. But not doing it not because you're an evil *******, but because you can't really help it probably won't make you end up in hell.

Thought I'd contribute. Anyways, back to gay porn.

If we all, I mean, everyone, in the world, followed the bible, we would have world peace. That simple. Just read the book of peace.

BTW: I use NWT bible.

Sleeping with women outside of marriage is a sin.

If we all followed the Qu'ran we'd have world peace too.

If we all followed Nailface, there would be too. Plus free cookies. I win.

EDIT: (what follows is the Google version of 'hedgehog Jesus')[/i]

Almost every person thinks his/her religion will bring eternal peace.

I mean, the bible tells us how it is okay to "deal with" non-believers.

what does world peace have to do with sin?

Well, what is a sin? Is it something you can find? Is it marked somewhere?

So basically, if everyone agreed on the same set of morals, no one would have moral conflicts, and thus, there would be peace: I agree.

Is this a good thing? No.

Peace through conformity is what you're talking about, and it's frightening.

I don't get it. Jesus is a hypocrite? OK.

Christians are free from Jewish-style dietary restrictions because we are under grace, not under the law. The only time a Christian should not eat a certain food is if it has been previously sacrificed to idols. (1 Corinthians 8:1-13)This really isn't an issue anymore because we live in a different culture and that practice does not usually take place these days. (besides, what are the odds that the guys in the meat department at the local Safeway have an altar to Baal set up in the back room?

In this way, all foods are permissable, even alcohol. However, we are not to become drunk on wine (and by extension, any other alcoholic beverage) but it is not inherently forbidden. However, keep in mind that we as Christians represent Jesus Christ and in so doing we should not partake of anything if it would cause another believer to stumble. (e.g. A Christian should not drink in front of another christian who is a recovering alcoholic.)


I hope this clears up the food restrictions issue.

Sweet, and then we could have slaves again!

And since we can only have slaves from neighboring countires, I call dibs on SF_Gold.

That's also a rediculous assumption because various Christian sects are always at odds anyway because they interpret the bible differently.


Anyway, were all the old laws overturned, or just the ones about food?

hey pagewizard, when i get a job in the abbatoir, whenever an animal dies, i will claim its death in the name of some other diety.

And if any of you christians get pissed off with blasphemy, but still say "holy cow"... i hope you and your entire family dies.

No, but it can be changed. I have met several people who have experienced such.



I was showing that they are both sins to act on, regardless of someone being predisposed towards it. It doesn't matter whether anyone is being "hurt" in the process. So what is a sin?



I'm glad you asked. A sin is basically anything that goes against God's will. If you believe that the Bible is the word of God, then God is against homosexual actions, making it a sin.

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Anyway, were all the old laws overturned, or just the ones about food?[/QUOTE]
All of them. Christians now live under grace (the new covenent) rather than mosaic law. However, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:10, still call homosexual actions a sin.

However, since we live under grace, there is still salvation and redemption for all, no matter how gay they may be.

Last time I checked, my religion never supported slavery. We don't go off killing people who aren't of our own beliefs, or say we should like many internationaly QUOTED Catholic priests and Mormon Elders. Yes I saw a webpage of many Catholics and Mormons saying that "we should blast Islam to hell" (finding the link shouldn't prove to be too difficult to you google masters).

My point of view is this:
-The world WILL NEVER fix it self, on the contrary, its destroying it self even more.
-A clamatic solution IS requiered, and it will happen soon.
-We can now confirm that we are on the edge of deliverance, all prophicies are being fufilled and now we wait for the fall of Babylon the Great.
-Its ultimately up to God whether one lives or dies, and he has said how he will judge you, and how you must show your love, loyalty, feith and allegiance.

Crusaders, and the spanish inquisition?

You mean, if everyone followed the same interpretation of the bible, and if they all ignored the bits that wouldn't fit the world peace idea.

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]Crusaders, and the spanish inquisition?[/QUOTE]

Muslims actually started the Crusades, and it was more of a political than religious thing.

Not sure if the Muslims started the reconquesta or not, but the inquisition was more about assuring the crown's control over all of spain.

So you can be gay if you feel like it? What talent.

I've long held that all Christians should tear the old testament out of their bibles and burn it.

No it can't, and you are retarded if you believe this.

A significant portion of homosexual attraction is based upon the person's reaction to different pheromones produced by men and women. These are important biochemical indicators that affect our mind on a primodial level. Although they don't regulate behavior in any significant way, it does have a powerful impact upon your ability to determine what would be a suitable mate. Gay men, for instance, would respond to male pheromones instead of female ones. The chemical triggers that inspire mating simply don't happen for them with a member of the opposite gender. Homosexuality is not a psychological deal, it's a biochemical deal.

No: You don't know several people who have "experienced" this. You know several people who are faking it so monsters like you will stop harassing them.

Funny thing about that is how you have to want redemption in order to get it. So you're an evil baby-killing jew-butchering homophobe. You think those things are great, so you'll burn in hell like the rest of your ilk. Sound about right to you?

As if religion isn't being used now for violent means and in politics.

If anyone is harassing people, it's you. Yes, because people sharing their story with me really makes me a monster. that being said, what exactly are they faking? Being gay or being straight? I think enjoying taking it up the rear for twenty years qualifies you as gay, and I think being in love with a woman and raising a family with her and being so affected by the change that you would share your testimony with as many people as possible is a sign of change.

Way to be a prick when it could have easily been avoided. It shows a lot about your character.


erm...what?

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]As if religion isn't being used now for violent means and in politics.[/QUOTE]

But I would argue that it's just a beard to cover their own motives (regarding violence, at least).