I'm missing the part that requires 15 seconds...

Arch and Ruthy said what I was going to say!

Shred, that texture looks great, it really feels like metal.

Out of curiosity, what material is the ribbed part supposed to be?

Oh hey, with Irfanview, I could do it in 5 seconds. :p

Too high an estimate, you think?

Some sort of space age polymer perhaps? The cutscene prop was probably plastic :p

It depends. Are we including the amount of time it takes Photoshop to load, or no?

And what if photoshop was already open???

That is where the dillema lies.

Better bryar, but at this point, do you think it would be too hard to add the power clip and rounded "revolver" style rear, like the one in Dark Forces?

I never much cared for JK/JO/JA's versions, with all the cool pieces missing.

Isn't his pistol a modified rifle, hence the accuracy/power?

yea... Kyle had the barrel and muzzle shortened. Looking at the DF version, I don't think it ever had a rifle stock... but JK/JO's would lead you to believe it did, and Kyle sawed that off as well... that's why those versions are more ugly.

I second (third?) the clip idea. From the pic halucid posted, it seems that the cutscene bryar definitely doesn't have a clip on the same side as the DF one, but I don't know if it lacks the clip entirely. I think a clip would add a healthy dose of asymmetry.

The JO Bryar is hideous, IMO. It's freaking huge! I much prefer the DF version and the bryar prop from JK because it actually looks like a handgun, not some giant metallic log with a very small grip at the end.

Actually, I'm not referring to the wiki at all. I refer you to my post, in which I listed my source as The New Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology. The information on the bowcaster reads:

"Twin polarities on either side of the crossbow create alternating positive and negative pulses, which power the weapon's tensile metal bowstring. When the bowcaster's trigger is pulled, the accelerated bowstring launches an explosive quarrel. As the quarrel travels the length of the bowcaster's launch shaft, it is enveloped in energy generated by the polarizers. When the quarrel emerges from the bowcaster's barrel, it resembles an elongated blaster bolt. The quarrel's energy sheath focuses the quarrel's explosive force directly into the target, making the bowcaster one of the most devastating personal weapons ever created. However, a Wookiee's legendary strength is required just to cock and control the weapon."

That makes it sound to me like the string does have an actual function, even if only to 'guide' the magnetic field that launches the bolt. The mention of the need for Wookiee strength makes me think that it's necessary to draw the string, though.

(Sorry, I know we've moved past that already, I just needed to explain what I was saying, and list my source material. I'm done now.)

honestly shred, I gotta say, I never liked your bryar... I don't know why, but the JK bryar and the JO/JA bryars looks good to me but yours just rubs me the wrong way.

I like the other weapons though.

The pistol grip (I assume that's the darker metal thing on the way back of the gung) seems to be too thing from that perspective, I think, like maybe 1 cm thick. I'm not saying it IS, but that it looks thin to me. And I hope that is curves, because a straight metal grip like that would be hard to hold and uncomfortable. It also looks too wide, I think (Again the darker metal part at the back end of the gun).

But if that actually is different than it looks to me from here, this post was useless.

Carry on.

Yeah, but do ya see the YAYCLIP is now featured?

Did you put is in the other side so it would fit more with the cutscenes?

I hate not being able to see that hands of the user of the weapon. And again, I say you need to put a hand on the foregrip of the Crossbow

I say you guys also need to update all of the projectiles.

I agree with Monoxide, Shred your models are so incredible, that it would be unfortunate if the realism on them was cut down due to not seeing the hands.

I've seen your work, and I know you can do hands on guns

That looks a lot nicer with the clip. And I'd agree with -Monoxide- that it would be better if we could see Kyle's hand.

I feel sheepish mentioning this, since this isn't my project or my area of expertise, but do you think it might be worthwhile to try moving the whole thing higher and more to the right? Just an idea- I doubt it's a very good one at that, but it might be worth trying.

@ halucid: Actually, I put it on that side because thats the side it's on the original model. I stayed pretty close to the JK model with this one, with the ribbed back section and everything.

@ Dark__Knight: That's an animation issue.

SNAKES ON A BRYAR PISTOL

i think the link someone posted before of the pics of the bryar is awesome
it makes me actually want to use the bryar.
your one from that angle doesnt seem to look like a gun so much.
in the middle pic from that link you can see that the bryar is pretty tall
i cant see from the angle of your pic if yours is like that too, but i just think the gun seems more believable when its got a bit of meat too it. yours looks like a meal tube that gets thinner in the foreground
could you post the model at different angles please?
thanks.

hey hes doing his best, he has a life other than jk....so i think it would really help if you people kept your silly comments like "this doesnt look like a bryar at alll" to yourself.


anyway, cool bryar dude.

not all the time yodason sometimes saying things dont look right and then explaining why helps get it to look better.

So... we're supposed to keep our criticism on his showcase to ourself? Isn't this what the showcase forum is all about?

I would also like to see the hand on the model. Slightly extended, as how one holds a real pistol, perhaps? Not too much, of course, otherwise it doesn't match well with the external model (none of them do to begin with).

FAR better than the old bryar. That was like some dinky toy.

Man I just can't get over Shred. Every freaking model is 100% brilliant.

hey i am doing my best, i have a life outside of jedi knight forums....so i think it would really help me if you kept your silly comments like "it would really helpt if you people kept your silly comments...to yourself" to yourself.

You mean stop the "stop the fuss" fuss?

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How many shots it takes to kill another player. :p It's along the lines of Han Solo's Blaster, modified for extreme zappage! It should take at the max 3 shots to kill another player. Oh wait, maybe that's true in SP........

In JO, it takes a maximum of 2 fully-charged shots. It's actually one of the most useful weapons in JO multiplayer.

Bryar sniping was a lot of fun. Especially in maps like that Massassi temple map where people were always bunched together in the center or lined up along the edges of the top. Just keep shooting into groups of people and pretty quickly you'll get kills.

Agreed, Emon.

There really is nothing like a precision handgun. It just can't be beat.

(The pistol also happens to be my favourite weapon in that other game some kids play called Halo. Especially where extremely close ranges, averted eyes, and the backs of skulls are concerned.)

Indeed. A pity the pistol is so wimpy in halo2. I used it whenever I could get it in the single player campaign. It takes down grunts with a head shot even on legendary, punches through an elites shields in only three, is the only weapon besides the shotgun (at extreme close range only) that can take out flood in a single hit (Gotta get them right through the middle of the chest, where the parasite is) and, best of all, it's perfect for dispatching hunters execution style. Sidestep their charge, turn, and stick a single bullet in the small of their back. And people wonder why a gun as 'wimpy' as a pistol is so hard to come by in that game. I'd keep an empty one as my second gun just in case I found some ammo for it.

As much as I disliked Halo, its pistol did indeed kick ***.