I lived with 2 smokers for the better half of my life from age 5 to 16. They both didn't care if I was in the same room, or car. They refused to roll down the windows, and refused to go outside. Trust me, I hate smoking more than anyone here can say they do. But I don't act all *****y when someone lights up in front of me--in fact, it's not that bad. Breathing the "poison" is just like breathing exhaust...in fact probably a lot worse. Anyone who says cigarette smoke kills and is horrible and cigarettes should be banned because they have to breath it once a day for a brief moment, much less once a week or once a month, needs to get their drama meter checked. Why? Because it's not. That. Big. Of. A. Deal.

So... let me get this straight...
I should go out, and obtain a GAS MASK, and CARRY IT WITH ME, and USE IT, because someone else wants to exercise their "constitutional right" to poison themselves, and me in the process...

Sorry, I forgot you're the absolute authority on everything
Obviously I don't have the right to an opinion of you don't think it's important.

Ignore this post

That was sarcasm.
You've managed to elude my point, please try again.

I don't smoke around people who don't smoke.
I don't smoke around children, and try to keep my cigarette out of site when they go by.
I don't blow smoke at people.
I don't force anyone to smoke.
I don't steal money from you to buy smokes.
I pay for them with my own money, which I've earned.
I smoke because it relaxes me, how is this your business?
I smoke because I enjoy it, how in the hell is it your business?
I smoke because it's my constitutional right to pursue my own happiness.

I am fully aware of the health concerns of smoking.
I am 18 and permitted by law to smoke cigarettes in places where it isn't banned.

Leave my rights alone. You have the right to walk away from smokers, exercise it.


Well Spoken

I don't care if you have an opinion, just stop saying people should lose rights because you're *****ing about a little smoke.

I can, I'm just too lazy. I spend 9 hours straight daily in front of a computer working, I don't really feel like coming home to look up facts on the internet all night just to prove something that people aren't going to believe either way. If you want to know them, look them up for yourself, because I couldn't be bothered to.



Have you have sex while high on pot before? It feels better, believe me. It doesnt make it better no, but it does certainly feel better. Anyone here that's experienced it can vouche for that I am certain.



No. I used to think Marijuana was bad, I used to think the same propaganda that you do. Then, I developed Tourette's Syndrome, ADD, and slight OCD. I tried smoking Marijuana because I heard it could actually help my TS, and it did. From then on, it just became a social and recreational thing to do for me, seeing as both it helped me and it was fun. I quit for long periods of time at various intervals over the past 6 years. No, I didn't try to quit and couldnt handle it, I just simply didn't feel like getting high.

All throughout the time I began smoking, until now, I decided to educate myself on Marijuana, seeing as how what I had previously thought about it was now blown away by my own experience's, I realised that everything I heard wasn't exactly true. Over the past few years I've read article after article about negative effects, positive effects, historical articles on how some of the FDA and other scientific studies put out direct false information (the ads on televison are some good ones to cite for exaggeration/falsification). I remember reading an article that actually claimed the FDA was put under fire when it was actually found they purposely exaggerated and outright falsified some of their claims about Marijuana. Again, I don't feel like searching, but if you don't believe me, go ahead and do some searching as I couldn't be bothered. You have the materials here.

So no, my opinion wasnt simply formed on bull**** I heard all over, or pothead arguments posted by potheads on the internet. My opinion is formed based off lots of research into my recreational habit, paying close attention and asking lots of questions to my friends, peers, schoolmates, etc, especially paying attention to them and how they act/feel while high on marijuana.

All of the info I have read based on the negative effects of pot, put together with my own experience, has made me come to the conclusion that no matter how many articles you read pro or against Pot, you truly cannot and do not know anything about the drug and what it does or can do, until you experience it yourself.



You need to get out and know more potheads. Most people I know that are extreme potheads are the most laid back, nicest people I've ever met. I fail to see how someone that does something that could only harm themselve's and nobody else, a lifestyle choice of their own, are losers.

You don't have to believe me on anything I say, but if you're going to debate to me about how something that you yourself have never experienced when I myself have and know exactly what I'm talking about, then I don't really care if you believe me or not. It affects my life in no way whatsoever.

There's only one thing I have left to say - To those that think Pot is so very evil....


Alcohol CAN kill you.

Marijuana can't.

Temp--Marijuana CAN kill. It's been linked to lung cancer, and one joint ruins your lungs 10x worse than 1 cigarette.

Perhaps if you READ THE THREAD, you would know what I was talking about. With the discussion of these substances, and the constant comparison to cigarettes I SAID:



As you can see, I was stating that the case shouldn't be "cigarettes are legal so marijuana should be too" but rather, "marijuana is illegal, so cigarettes should be too".
Seeing as they are both harmful substances.

HOWEVER, when the topic was brought up, I defended my statements, because smoking has caused a great deal of damage to my lungs, and has affected my life in a big way, and though I recognized in another post that banning cigarettes was impossible, I, personally, would not be opposed to it.

SO MY FRIENDS PERHAPS YOU SHOULD READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU ATTACK ME? YES? GOOD IDEA? MAYBE!!

POT. KETTLE. BLACK.

(eprops to zully)

I believe he's referring to the active ingredient. Not actions you'll take while on the drug, or long term side affects. You can, and will die if you drink too much alcohol in one sitting. If you smoke too much pot, you'll just fall asleep or puke at worst.

Well in that case, he's right. There's no OD'ing on THC

A. Lung Cancer is what kills you, not Marijuana. You cannot die from smoking Marijuana. You can overdose on Alcohol. Alcohol poisoning?...

B. 1 - 2 joints is the average for most Marijuana smokers. This equals 5 or 10 cigarette's. The average daily use of cigarette's for cig smokers is a pack to two packs a day. This is 20-25 or even 50 cigarette's a day. Far outweighs what Marijuana does to your lungs. You'd have to smoke 5 or more joints a day to get to this level.

This is what I mean when I say some arguments, although true, are exaggerated.

For your information, I don't post until I've read everyone else's posts and opinions, otherwise I'm popping in to fire off an opinion and leave. I don't think that compares to basing a several-post flame off a single out of context post. But I always do appreciate being called a hypocrite.

True. But saying Lung Cancer is what kills you and not Marijuana is like saying Cancer is what kills you, not Asbestos.

Really? ****, you're gonna love me then.

I do believe that you can, in fact, OD on THC, but apparently you'd have to smoke your body weight or more in pot, and would die of smoke inhalation first. Hmm... A negative consequence of concentrated THC pills! Perhaps it's not such a good idea after all.

Yeah, and at that point, you don't die, but just become braindead. No one's ever done it either--it's just speculation.

I've read that same thing as well. It's only been theorized and never proven, but that would definetly be a downside to thc pills

Actually, it's the equivalent of twice your body weight in Marijuana, or almost 9 thousand joints.

It's impossible because before you even got a little bit through, you'd be too high to smoke any more or you'd pass out. It's not physically possible to smoke 9 thousand joints in one session. You'd pass out after probalby 50-100 or more, depending on your body weight/size/condition.. Far cry from 9 thousand.

My new goal in life: To kill the world's fattest man by THC overdose via joint.

Not gonna happen.

Please tape it when you do. That would be horribly amusing until he died.

Temp: I'll make it happen
Compos: I've already got the film in the camera

He'd probably die of a heart attack from eating so many munchies first :p

I wonder how many twinkies and funyuns it takes to kill a man?

But wouldn't Marijuana smoke in the air be too dilluted to cause any real harm?

Twice his body weight.. Or 9 thousand :p



Good question.

Temp, let's do a fun calculation, find out how much it would cost to OD this guy.

635kg or 1397lbs according to the guiness book or world records, so that's about 1270kg or 2794lbs to OD him.

I don't know how much the average joint weights, or how much it costs, but let's see how many joints and how much it would cost (Use USD or CAD, just state which one)

Well, I'm absolute crap at math... So you can do the "fun" stuff :p

But 1 joint usually weighs anywhere from half a gram, to a gram.

There are bigger ones, but the most common are the smaller ones, unless you're going for a big huge session :p

US average $10/gram in my area
Joints are about a gram

You bunch of ****ing stoners. :p

1,270kg x 1,000g/1kg=1,270,000g
1,270,000g(1,270,0000 joints) x $10/g = $10,270,000

Over 10 million dollars to kill him. Woo I better start working.

I can pitch in a nickel :p

Sheesh, 9 thousand joints. I bet even 900 twinkies would kill you in one sitting. Heck, running 9,000 miles in one session would kill you. There are a LOT more harmful things out there.

Yeah I'm with you on the opiate/opioid addiction. I get migraines and used to get them quite a bit more often. I was prescribed Vicodin and I'll be damned. I fiend for that like no other. The withdrawals were soooo bad. When I really think about I get this need for it that makes me shiver and shake. If chronic were legal then I could have done that instead. Now, I'd probably use a good bubbler as smoking it via joint is nasty.

How much THC to kill me? I weigh 180lbs

Ok. Here's the lowdown. I'm gonna state some facts.

Adictiveness.
Marijuana is a drug. Most drugs tend to be addictive. If this is actually found to have addictive properties, so what? Big suprize? Not really. But most people are NOT addicted to it, cases were people are are rare. And it's not nessessary an addiction to the THC.


Arguements that it might be bad for you:
In the case that it does have some minor damaging effect, because I can speak from experience, as thousands of others, that it does not have any noticable damage to us.

What's on the labels off all the drugs out there? Side effects. Some of the side effects of these drugs that are supposed to be good are nasty. Nothing like that with this stuff.

edit I got more to say. I starting this post a while ago.. got intereputed with halo2 game. more later.