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Medicinal Marijuana
2004-11-30, 7:36 PM #161
180lbs x 1kg / 2.2lbs = ~82kg
x2

164kg = 16, 400g or 16, 400 joints

(This is weed, not THC, to find THC I'll need the approximate % composition of THC per gram of weed, which is pretty variable)
2004-11-30, 7:40 PM #162
Yeah, I think street weed is somewhere between 4% thc to 7% thc. Medicinal is 14% I believe. Damn I'd love some 100%..... giggle city :D
2004-11-30, 7:58 PM #163
[url=www.eugenemirman.com/pot.mov]Language Warning[/url]

Thought this'd be pertinent.

Link works.
D E A T H
2004-11-30, 7:59 PM #164
Indeed it does work.
2004-11-30, 11:04 PM #165
Quote:
Originally posted by Temperamental
Yeah, I think street weed is somewhere between 4% thc to 7% thc. Medicinal is 14% I believe. Damn I'd love some 100%..... giggle city :D


On a related note, alot of anti-pot people try and spout off "facts" like "Marijuana nowadays is 10-20 times as potent as in the 60s/70s". If that were true then todays pot would have to average 20-40% THC...Hmm I wish! Temp you are right it is usually about 4-7% As for 100%, that isn't possible with bud since that would leave no room for the plant matter...but you can get something called Rub which is almost straight THC crystals.

As for the weed overdose question, like people said its completely impossible. Not only for the reasons also stated but...think about it. If you smoked 9000 joints you still wouldn't die because it would take you like a week nonstop to smoke them all. The 9000 joints total is the amount of thc needed to o.d so it has to all hit you at once.
2004-12-01, 8:06 AM #166
i know loads of people who drive stoned.

thats what the speed limit was designed for.

i get high in lessons all the time.

no problems there.

how come all these facts your throwing at me just dont ring true?
2004-12-01, 3:15 PM #167
Yeah Raoul, a couple friends of mine and myself decided on 4-20 to get a bud-buster (a regular small coffee grinder used to cut up marijuana instead of coffee buds), and put a lot of pot in it, cut it up, empty the pot out and then scrape all the crystals left inside out into a small shot glass. After about 2 weeks we had about 1 and a half shot glasses full (since my friend is a dealer who gets about a pound a week), which we then happilly smoked on that day in bongs.

For those that don't know, 4-20 is the day a lot of people consider the "marijuana smoking celebration day", even though it's not true, a hell of a lot celebrate it. And the date is April 20th, hence the term 4-20.

Yoshi - That commercial was hilarious :p It pretty much sums up all of the propaganda claims by the government that I was talking about in one nice picture. Shows how mature they can be about it as well. They're basically calling whoever smokes pot idiots and making them seem totally retarded.
2004-12-01, 3:20 PM #168
someone told me that a 4:20 was to smoke a 3 burn bag (a 3 burn "dry gravity bong" to you americans... you know, the bottle and the tape and the bag) then a triple shot of liquour straight afterwards... 3 times.

ah well, it ****s you up either way.
2004-12-01, 3:37 PM #169
I'm not sure about that whole thing, it might be the name given to a particular way of smoking, but for the most part, 4-20 is considered to be the widely popular and celebrated weed smoking day throughout USA and Canada.
2004-12-01, 4:24 PM #170
Cigarettes are bad, weed is bad, and alchohol is bad without moderation, but who cares? If you don't like them don't do them and if you do have fun, I don't see why people are arguing.
America, home of the free gift with purchase.
2004-12-01, 4:42 PM #171
The only reason I'm arguing is because I'm defending Marijuana from the stereotype's and propaganda that has been put out about it that's just plain false and exagerrated, as I've said many many times. I have no problem with people who are against marijuana, as long as they are against it for legitimate reasons, and not fluffy lies that have been told to them.
2004-12-01, 4:55 PM #172
Why? Who cares if they believe lies. More pot for you.
2004-12-01, 5:09 PM #173
It's not all about making someone believe what I want them to. It'd standing up for my own ideals, standing up for the truth. Most of the people who are against pot, tend to also discriminate against people who use it. For example

Most people who are against pot are like this
"I hate pot and everything to do with it. I think anyone that smokes it is a total moron that I don't even want around me. I think pot smokers are complete losers and will go nowhere in life"

You rarely come across a person who doesn't like pot like this
"Oh yeah sure, I don't like pot at all and I'm against it. But whoever smokes it, well it's their choice. I don't look down on them for it, because it doesn't affect me"

Keyword: Look down upon.
2004-12-01, 5:11 PM #174
You can use it for medical purposes? Well i must be the healthiest person on earth then.

Also 4-20 is the symbol for getting missed up (IE 4:20 pm/am) or any time of day really. What it's really from is when the cops arrest you for drug use, its called in as a 4-20 so thats kinda where that comes from.

Quote:
Yeah Raoul, a couple friends of mine and myself decided on 4-20 to get a bud-buster (a regular small coffee grinder used to cut up marijuana instead of coffee buds), and put a lot of pot in it, cut it up, empty the pot out and then scrape all the crystals left inside out into a small shot glass. After about 2 weeks we had about 1 and a half shot glasses full (since my friend is a dealer who gets about a pound a week), which we then happilly smoked on that day in bongs.


WTF is up with crystals in your stuff? You know I never smoke anything with crystals in it but hey what ever floats your boat.



Its funny the image people get in their heads when they think about POT. ITs always some clueless dingbat with a mushroom necklace thats a basic washup (like my hippy friend) however thats like saying all people who drink are those violent drunk people that throw up in thier hats, but the booze commercials tell us that drinking is fun and classy so thats what we assoiciate with it.
Time is but a window
Death is but a doorway
He'll be back
2004-12-01, 5:13 PM #175
The crystals are crystals of THC, or as they're sometimes called 'tricombs'.
D E A T H
2004-12-01, 5:16 PM #176
Now thats getting too scientific... what ever happened to just picking it? Now its all Hydro and processed. You know if it and when it does get legal, botany books and greenhouses are going to get a boom in business.
Time is but a window
Death is but a doorway
He'll be back
2004-12-01, 5:17 PM #177
You do realize that there are only two types of people in America who ever use the metric system right?

Scientists and Drug dealers. Drugs have ALWAYS been technical. :p
D E A T H
2004-12-01, 5:19 PM #178
"The metric system's the tool of the devil! My target's forty rods to the hog's head, and that's the way I likes it!"
2004-12-01, 5:24 PM #179
You can't simply plant Marijuana and then "pick it" like it's a tomato.

Outdoor weed yeah, you can plant it, keep it under close close close watch, and hope it turns out potent. Even after it's grown fully you got to take some steps to make sure it's really to its best potential.

The reason there's so much hydroponics and stuff in the Marijuana nowadays is because Marijuana is grown mostly in places with 4 seasons, two of them being wet and cold. These aren't good conditions to grow pot in, in fact you CANT grow pot in these conditions.

This led to the invention of "hydroponic" lighting systems, produced specialty soil for maximum plant nutrition, etc. The reason most of Pot is like this is on the streets is because growing Marijuana through these operations "Indoor", which makes it "indoor weed", produces more potent Pot and actually helps the growth of THC percentage and potency of Marijuana as a whole.

It's just the same as baking something in the microwave, compared to baking the same in an oven. One will produce better results, from the exact same thing.

Yoshi was right about the crystal "thc" thing.

You might not have noticed, but ALL Marijuana has crystals on it. The more crystals you can see, the better the Marijuana is. Most likely. Crystals just help show the ammount of THC in the bud you've got. Take the time and look, they're shiny. Look under them in a microscope, they look like melted sugar, and they're actually quite pretty under a microscope. I think, they look like ice.

Crystals are also what make your fingers sticky (at least they help to along with the moisture of the bud) when you cut up your pot, if you do, with scissors and your hand.

So whenever you hear someone talk about the "Crystals" in their weed, it's the THC.
2004-12-01, 6:22 PM #180
Just curious, what are typical (Not counting knowing the right people) prices and for what kind of bud you people have? I live in the woods of Maine so we rarely get really good stuff unless we want to drive to Mass. or something.

If this is not considered legit forum talk just delete my post.
2004-12-01, 6:27 PM #181
Though this is not what I pay, this IS the regular street price where I live (and as far as I know across Ontario)

10 Dollars for a Gram

30 Dollars for 3.5 Grams (you get a half gram free) Called a "Half Quarter"

50-60 Dollars for 7 grams, called a "Quarter"

100-120 for a Half Ounce

180-210 for an Ounce

500-800 for a Pound

From then on I have no idea
2004-12-01, 6:29 PM #182
Yup. about the same here.
I've only paid for it like 4 times. Leeching off others is much more money effecient.
2004-12-01, 6:33 PM #183
You guys are gonna get pissed when I tell you I've given my friend ~a pound of free weed, and I've sold quarters for 20, nickels for 5, and 'half quarters' for 10. :x
D E A T H
2004-12-01, 6:49 PM #184
Not mad.... But I sure wish now that I was buying my weed from you at that time :p
2004-12-01, 7:17 PM #185
Those of you who are riticuling weed quite obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I've never met anyone, talked to anyone, or heard about anyone who suffered from any long term effects of the drug. In fact, I've never even heard of someone being mildly addicted to it. I at one point was smoking every single day. The reason I quit was because I realized I didn't really need it anymore, and it wasn't providing a high, it was just a social stimulation.

I'm just now getting over my alcoholism which I've been strugling with for a year now. Just today, actually, I was shaking and stumbling around and sluring my speach. Quitting alcohol is absolutelly nothing like quitting weed. I stopped putting the joint to my lips, VS I stopped myself from feeling sick. It's a world of difference. Weed is nothing like Alcohol in any way shape or form, and it's far more healthy than cigarettes. Cigarettes are unatural, while Weed is a natural plant that causes no long term effects. Smoking while driving is wrong, as is drinking while driving. It's a sensory stimuli.

Many people gain posative benefits from weed such as increased concentration, better eating habbits/metabolism, and espcailly more logical thinking. I remember smoking a couple joints before a test and doing amazingly well, and not knowing much of anything in the class.

Seriously, you may think your scientists know what weed is by making a rat smoke it, but you simply don't know until you've experienced the effects, or been in long term cotnact with someone who has. Seriously, you never hear about a guy being abusive to his wife after a long night of weed. Never. It's not like people fear their parents because they'll beat them when they're smoking weed.

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2004-12-01, 8:08 PM #186
I'm bored.. I'm supposed to be making a speech. How about the anti people give me some "facts" or bad things about it, and I'll debunk em. Even if its already been covered. I'll dig up new info.
2004-12-02, 4:26 AM #187
Quote:
Originally posted by Temperamental
Though this is not what I pay, this IS the regular street price where I live (and as far as I know across Ontario)

10 Dollars for a Gram

30 Dollars for 3.5 Grams (you get a half gram free) Called a "Half Quarter"

50-60 Dollars for 7 grams, called a "Quarter"

100-120 for a Half Ounce

180-210 for an Ounce

500-800 for a Pound

From then on I have no idea


around the same prices in quebec too. The difference is we get good ****. ;)
"NAILFACE" - spe
2004-12-02, 6:18 AM #188
Squirrel, which woods of Maine do you live in? All of you bastards are moving into my territory!

As for prices, for common "merch" bud, I usually pay $25 an eighth. Sometimes as low as $20. For good, "dank" bud, I pay anywhere between $40-$60 an eighth. The more you buy, the more the person knocks off the price. Like for a quarter, if I was paying $60 for an eighth of kind bud, a quarter would probably only cost me $100 instead of $120. But of course, this depends on your relationship with the dealer as well.

I'm going to laugh if I've already smoked with you, Squirrel.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 6:21 AM #189
I didn't realize people paid so much for weed. :p
D E A T H
2004-12-02, 6:23 AM #190
Quote:
Originally posted by Squirrel King
I'm bored.. I'm supposed to be making a speech. How about the anti people give me some "facts" or bad things about it, and I'll debunk em. Even if its already been covered. I'll dig up new info.


See my posts.

[ Edit ] Wait: against legaliziation for medicinal use, or recreational use? [ /Edit ]
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-02, 12:02 PM #191
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
I didn't realize people paid so much for weed. :p


It's actually relatively cheap considering how little a person needs to smoke to become high. An eigth of dank (~$50) will last a single person more than a few weeks. I know people who spend that much to be drunk for a few nights.
omnia mea mecum porto
2004-12-02, 12:03 PM #192
180 for an ounce?

what a ripoff
2004-12-02, 12:05 PM #193
Where are you getting ounces for less than $180?

Quote:
Originally posted by Zuljin
I'm going to laugh if I've already smoked with you, Squirrel.


hehehe.
Pissed Off?
2004-12-02, 12:56 PM #194
Many studys are not accurate. That is because, just because a pot smoke displays and acts out certain traits, does not mean that pot smoking causes that. Even if a study showed that a group of pot smokers did these things, and a group of non smokers didn't.

Most studies out there are not really supportive.. for either side.

Let's not talk about legal issues or anything like that.

Let's put down these three items. They seem to be the most consumed "bad" products.

Ciggarettes
Marijuana
Alchohol

You can argue anyone of these is bad, and I will agree with you. They all are. But we do them for one reason: It pleases us.

No one but addicts do things for any other reason than that.

It has negative effects? NO CRAP. They all do. But unless you're trying to mess yourself up, and are totaly abusing them you don't have to worry.

Looking at that least, and having seriously done all of them , I have to say the "Worst" is by far ciggarettes.


Wolfy.. you seem to be the biggest anti person here. I'm not saying you label us as bad people.. but maybe you can take something from that side and speak for them all:

All I'm getting at is.. People have no right to label the people who use pot as bad people. What's so bad about it? And how is it different from everything else out there? Call alchohol and ciggarete people bad, and the arguement is over... you win. But singling this out makes no sense.

EDIT for real this time.

Zul - Where do you live? I don't live in the "true" woods of maine up north, but I do live in a semi rural setting, off some private dirt road in the middle of woods.
2004-12-02, 12:58 PM #195
Wow this was SO supposed to be an edit, instead I posted again. And can't delete :confused: :confused:
2004-12-02, 1:16 PM #196
I don't live in the northern woods of Maine either. I live in a small rural town on the coast. Town called Damariscotta, but no one's ever heard of it. It's about an hour north of Portland.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 1:18 PM #197
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
It's not like people fear their parents because they'll beat them when they're smoking weed.

JediKirby


My dad baught me a bong for my birthday

And i get weekly weed money

he will support my habbit because he knows its better then cigs or alcohol (my mom is an alcoholic, trust me i know which one is worst). for all of you who think you know and havent experienced im telling you right now, you dont know. you really dont know.
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2004-12-02, 1:19 PM #198
Quote:
Originally posted by Zuljin
I don't live in the northern woods of Maine either. I live in a small rural town on the coast. Town called Damariscotta, but no one's ever heard of it. It's about an hour north of Portland.

Ah cool. I'm a little less than an hour south of Portland. Well .. my home is there. I'm at the University of Maine now.

I live on Sebago Lake.
2004-12-02, 1:22 PM #199
University of Maine in Orono or University of Southern Maine? 'Cause I went to school at USM last year. And have friends at UMO.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 1:23 PM #200
avenger - britland :)

/me does some math with yahoo finanace


$76
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