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Medicinal Marijuana
2004-12-02, 1:24 PM #201
Also, coincidentally, I went fishing on Sebago lake towards the end of this summer.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 1:29 PM #202
You can buy ounces of brick weed anywhere for $150...

..but its brick weed.
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2004-12-02, 1:31 PM #203
I guess I'm just spolied. They gow some good stuff in Santa Cruz and Humbolt here in California. High quality (Was that a pun?).
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2004-12-02, 1:33 PM #204
UMO - I doubt your freinds know me, I keep to myself at here (A weird habit I've always had. Screws myself over at college because theres really nothing else to do.. but I never was sociable IN school. I always hung out with kids from schools other that mine. Yes I'm weird) But for kicks ask them if they know a Will Wood.


Do you know where on the lake you were? Maybe you were near me :)
2004-12-02, 2:27 PM #205
No idea where I was. I drove for about... 30 minutes, I'd say, for Gorham.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 3:06 PM #206
Notice how just talking about weed is already bringing people together? And that isnt even smoking it with them.. :p

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around the same prices in quebec too. The difference is we get good ****.


:p Bah, I get mine from Toronto usually. It's pretty good. I usually can't finish a full regular sized joint.
2004-12-02, 3:26 PM #207
You're all paying overpriced, especially if it's canadian. I've never paid more than 25 bucks for an eighth, and that's the MOST I've ever paid. Now that I'm clean, I have more money though.

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2004-12-02, 4:34 PM #208
... you realize that there are different grades, right? Most of the weed I get comes from Canada, or at least it was when I was in school. That ranged from $25-$60 an eighth. Good bud costs more.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-02, 4:44 PM #209
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Originally posted by Squirrel King
Wolfy.. you seem to be the biggest anti person here. I'm not saying you label us as bad people.. but maybe you can take something from that side and speak for them all:

All I'm getting at is.. People have no right to label the people who use pot as bad people. What's so bad about it? And how is it different from everything else out there? Call alchohol and ciggarete people bad, and the arguement is over... you win. But singling this out makes no sense.


I can honestly say that I would not be upset over the banishment of alcohol and cigarettes. Not to say that they're causing the decay of modern society (nor have I intended to imply that about marijuana - I apologize if I have), but that they're unnecessary excesses whose purposes can be easily replaced by other activities to substitute it without the health risks.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-02, 5:51 PM #210
Ok that's better :)
Agrueings about the facts is silly. At least we've established this.
You're right.
But we still all do it anyways.
2004-12-02, 5:55 PM #211
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Originally posted by Zuljin
... you realize that there are different grades, right? Most of the weed I get comes from Canada, or at least it was when I was in school. That ranged from $25-$60 an eighth. Good bud costs more.


True, but mine was always sun-dried hydros, and perfectly worth every cent.

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2004-12-02, 6:48 PM #212
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Originally posted by Avenger
They grow some good stuff in Santa Cruz...


Aw, you're embarassing me. :o
2004-12-02, 7:09 PM #213
I saw an article in the Globe today talking about how seeking intoxication is the 4th instinct of man, after hunger, thirst, and sex. Groovy, it seems that the urge to change our perception of the world is completely natural.
2004-12-02, 7:43 PM #214
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Originally posted by Wolfy
I can honestly say that I would not be upset over the banishment of alcohol and cigarettes. Not to say that they're causing the decay of modern society (nor have I intended to imply that about marijuana - I apologize if I have), but that they're unnecessary excesses whose purposes can be easily replaced by other activities to substitute it without the health risks.

Although I do enjoy my excess drinking every once in a while (and by that I mean once every three months :(), Wolfy has a good point and I agree completely with him.
2004-12-02, 8:12 PM #215
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Originally posted by Connection Problem
I saw an article in the Globe today talking about how seeking intoxication is the 4th instinct of man, after hunger, thirst, and sex. Groovy, it seems that the urge to change our perception of the world is completely natural.


People have been making beer, wine and liqour or thousands and thousands of years.
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2004-12-02, 8:20 PM #216
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Originally posted by Avenger
People have been making beer, wine and liqour or thousands and thousands of years.

I'm sure they've been smoking pot for just as long, if not longer.
interesting googled article http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/potbible.htm


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EVIDENCE INDICATING THE SEMITIC ORIGIN OF CANNABIS

The name cannabis is generally thought to be of Scythian origin. Sula Benet in Cannabis and Culture argues that it has a much earlier origin in Semitic languages like Hebrew, occurring several times in the Old Testament. He states that in Exodus 30:23 that God commands Moses to make a holy anointing oil of myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm, and kassia. He continues that the word kaneh bosm is also rendered in the traditional Hebrew as kannabos or kannabus and that the root "kan" in this construction means "reed" or "hemp", while "bosm" means "aromatic". He states that in the earliest Greek translations of the old testament "kan" was rendered as "reed", leading to such erroneous English translations as "sweet calamus" (Exodus 30:23), sweet cane (Isaiah 43:24; Jeremiah 6:20) and "calamus" (Ezekiel 27:19; Song of Songs 4:14).

Benet argues from the linguistic evidence that cannabis was known in Old Testament times at least for its aromatic properties and that the word for it passed from the Semitic language to the Scythians, i.e. the Ashkenaz of the Old Testament. Sara Benetowa of the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw is quoted in the Book of Grass as saying: "The astonishing resemblance between the Semitic 'kanbos' and the Scythian 'cannabis' leads me to suppose that the Scythian word was of Semitic origin. These etymological discussions run parallel to arguments drawn from history.

The Iranian Scythians were probably related to the Medes, who were neighbors of the semites and could easily have assimilated the word for hemp. The Semites could also have spread the word during their migrations through Asia Minor.

Taking into account the matriarchal element of Semitic culture, one is led to believe that Asia Minor was the original point of expansion for both the society based on the matriarchal circle and the mass use of hashish."

The Ancient Israelites were a Semitic people. Abraham, the father of the Israelite nation, came from Ur, a city of Babylonia located in mesopotamia. The Israelites migrated throughout Asia Minor and could easily have spread the religious use of marijuana.
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<Anovis> mmmm I wanna lick your wet, Mentis.
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2004-12-02, 8:35 PM #217
Although I agree that there are of course naturally other ways to have fun without smoking pot, getting drunk, etc.. I've always held to two beliefs

A. They may not be healthy, but they certainly DO make things fun.

B. People can do what they want to their own bodies with their own life, even if it hurts them.

Just like in the Matrix....

"The problem, is choice" :p
2004-12-02, 8:40 PM #218
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Originally posted by Temperamental

B. People can do what they want to their own bodies with their own life, even if it hurts them.


Yes, although it's when they start endangering other people when it becomes a problem. Some people just don't know when they're unable to drive a car properly, especially around here. :\
2004-12-02, 8:56 PM #219
True. But how often does it happen really, that someone smoking Pot affects someone else?... I'd have to go with almost never.
2004-12-02, 8:58 PM #220
Oodles of druggies who rob people for pot money? I would call that affecting other people, and don't tell me it doesn't happen, because I know for a fact that it happens a lot.
2004-12-02, 9:00 PM #221
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Originally posted by Compos Mentis
A bunch of crap


Actually, smoking pot was invented by the ancient Ukrainians, around 400 BC, so yeah.
2004-12-02, 9:02 PM #222
Theres equally as many people that rob others for alcohol, cigartette money, robbing stores for money, robbing others for their personal belongings, carjackings for cars, murders for money, etc.
2004-12-02, 9:06 PM #223
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Originally posted by Mikus
Oodles of druggies who rob people for pot money? I would call that affecting other people, and don't tell me it doesn't happen, because I know for a fact that it happens a lot.


A lot? Right. :rolleyes:
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2004-12-02, 9:16 PM #224
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Originally posted by Temperamental
Theres equally as many people that rob others for alcohol...


That part is true at least -- it's my impression that marijuana-"sponsored" crimes are relatively low. The people who would rob someone for drug money, it seems to me, would be those addicted to harder substances, such as opiates, heroin, PCP, etc....
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-02, 9:50 PM #225
Oh, well if people steal money for other drugs it's ok and doesn't matter, my bad. :)
Oh, and all the people I know, and who my friends know, and who I hear about who do this... don't exist.
2004-12-03, 6:38 AM #226
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Originally posted by Temperamental
True. But how often does it happen really, that someone smoking Pot affects someone else?... I'd have to go with almost never.


That's because we're too busy looking for the lighter that we're holding in our hand to do anything to someone else, dude.

Pot smokers are the most laid back group of people you'll ever find. If they're not so laid back, chances are they're not just smoking pot.

Calling potheads "druggies" is stupid. I used to smoke weed just because I could. I enjoyed the effects, I cared about things a whole lot less, and it made the sex great. Recently, I haven't been able to afford any. I didn't beat up any grandmothers on the street to feed my habit. I didn't smash any car windows and steal a stereo to feed my habit. I just stopped smoking. And it hasn't bothered me. I'd like to smoke again, as I have a lot of down time and nothing to do, but oh well. And this is coming from someone that goes through a quarter ounce in about 2 days.
TAKES HINTS JUST FINE, STILL DOESN'T CARE
2004-12-03, 6:44 AM #227
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Originally posted by Mikus
Oh, well if people steal money for other drugs it's ok and doesn't matter, my bad. :)
Oh, and all the people I know, and who my friends know, and who I hear about who do this... don't exist.


I'm not dismissing your claims. I've no doubt that there exist people who hurt others in order to get their marijuana. My point is, however, that I've seen no data that says these people do not constitute a minority of pot smokers.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-12-03, 7:02 AM #228
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Originally posted by Mikus
Oh, well if people steal money for other drugs it's ok and doesn't matter, my bad. :)
Oh, and all the people I know, and who my friends know, and who I hear about who do this... don't exist.


Stop acting like an idiot. There are so few people that rob others for 'pot money' that it's not even funny. However, there are quite a few that rob for harder drugs--opiates, narcotics, etc etc. But I don't know a damn person that would ever rob someone for pot.

Get off your high horse.
D E A T H
2004-12-03, 8:22 AM #229
i rob people for vodka all the time.
2004-12-03, 9:21 AM #230
I find it much more of a hassle to steal money, for something.
Why not just steal the item you want in the first place? :p :) :D


But really..
2004-12-03, 10:20 AM #231
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Originally posted by Zuljin
That's because we're too busy looking for the lighter that we're holding in our hand to do anything to someone else, dude.


So true. My friends and I were hitting a bong and one of them managed to spill water on the lighter. The flint got wet, and the lighter wouldn't light. We were desperately trying to get the lighter working again when one of my friends says "Hey, we can dry it off with this". "This" being another lighter he had been holding in his hand the entire time.
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2004-12-03, 10:24 AM #232
hold down the gas tap and spark the light with another source other than the flint... dries them out sharp.
2004-12-03, 10:25 AM #233
That's what we were trying to do, but when someone else has another working lighter in their hand . . . :p
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2004-12-03, 10:34 AM #234
i know i'm guilty of asking "wheres my lighter?" when it was in my hand.... just something that happens when you're dizzy as a bat.
2004-12-03, 1:04 PM #235
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Originally posted by Avenger
So true. My friends and I were hitting a bong and one of them managed to spill water on the lighter. The flint got wet, and the lighter wouldn't light. We were desperately trying to get the lighter working again when one of my friends says "Hey, we can dry it off with this". "This" being another lighter he had been holding in his hand the entire time.


oh man. that's so awesome, yet familiar. made me laugh so hard.

I'd have proceeded in slapping the back of his head and taking the lighter from him.
"NAILFACE" - spe
2004-12-03, 1:37 PM #236
wow. this isn't closed yet?

i get a quarter of bc bud or chemo bud for $70.
a quarter of good hash for $80.
both last me a long long time. maybe 4 or 5 months.

it's funny how we demonize certain things because they are the flavour of the week or month.
cigs are so bad that our governments spend alot of money on campaigns to rid us of them yet they make billions every year from the taxes on the sale of them.
alcohol is the same.
yet exhaust is ok. the diesel exhaust from school busses have been linked to mental disorders in children who have taken the bus for years to school.
the preservatives in bread, canned foods, canned juice etc. cause cancer.
the toxic kitchen of scents that we spray on and around us everyday to 'make everything smell pretty' is not only linked to cancer but is also directly linked to increased asthma and chemical sensitivity. especialy in children.
why doesn't this make front page news?
no one cares. as long as someone isn't smoking a cigarette in a bus stop beside a bus idling and spewing NOx, SOx, uncombusted fuel along with vulcanized rubber particles that we breathe in by the nose full then we'll all be happy.

get that cigatette away from me. there's no room for those fumes after all the other easily preventable crap i've knowingly shoved in my mouth and breathed in.
thank you.

i will only listen to anyone complaining about the harms of cigarettes that also eat only organic produce, make their own bread without preservatives, make their own juice, live outside of a city where smog is a health risk and generally keeps in mind the manufacturing processes of the other products they buy when buying them.
all of which are very easy to do and very easy to afford.
2004-12-03, 2:57 PM #237
Zuljin's totally right. I find pot smokers to be the most laid back people I've ever met. They can hold good conversations as well, especially when they're high. EVERYTHING is a good topic to talk about with them. Especially food :p

I used to smoke quite a lot, just like him. I'd go through about a quarter every 2 days as well. Since then I've gone down to literally a joint a week, and it doesn't affect me in any way. I usually smoke 1 or 2 puffs a night, and that's about it.

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So true. My friends and I were hitting a bong and one of them managed to spill water on the lighter. The flint got wet, and the lighter wouldn't light. We were desperately trying to get the lighter working again when one of my friends says "Hey, we can dry it off with this". "This" being another lighter he had been holding in his hand the entire time.


LOL. That's a true stoner moment. I've had that happen a few times, but not myself.

I don't think there was one time that I had a lighter in my hand and forgot it was there... But that could be because I didn't ever really have the need to continuously light things.... I hate bongs. I never smoke them.
2004-12-03, 3:00 PM #238
Pipes > Bongs

I quit smoking weed 10 months ago. I got mine cheap though, my best friend's cousin was a dealer. I bought an once for $60 once. Chance of a lifetime.
2004-12-03, 3:11 PM #239
pipes are harsh, bongs are smooth.

baggies still win (dry grav bongs to some americans).

they kick your *** and OMG I HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS AND I KILL PEOPLE.

drink driving is my biggest vice though.

i cant drive but i know for a fact that once i get a car i'm gonna be a regular drink driver because of some sort of self destructive personality disorder.... i might take someone out with me too.... ah well, i'll be dead, doubt i'll care.
2004-12-03, 3:13 PM #240
Yeah, the pipe is just a personal preference. Like drinking beer out of a bottle or a can.
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