Mace's overconfidence was his weakness.

Then that would be enough.

Yea! And palpatines faith in his friends was his! uh...wait a second...

and your parents don't need to be force sensitive for you to be, but it gives you a better chance

Something I've been wondering, did Mace really defeat Palpatine in this, only to be defeated by Anakin, or was Palpatine faking it? I wonder if Mace really did have him down for good and could have finished it off.

If he was faking, it was a very clever way to force Anakin choose fast, and quite permanently, his side.

I still can't wait for this movie. The book is awesome.

Looking at everything thus far, I think it's written so that Palpatine and Mace are about equal in power and jedi/sith mastery. Thus, when Anakin chooses to murder Mace Windu he is once again the "Chosen One" who "brings balance" to the force.

Can we keep the spoilers from the book to a minimum, please?

... but that's the entire point of the thread...

No, the point of the thread is images from Episode 3. Most of the actual spoilers have been kept in spoiler tags, which is fine, but the past few posts have contained spoilers from the book, and I'm just asking for people to keep it in spoiler tags if they're posting spoilers.

Palpatine is not faking his defeat. Mace is caught off-guard by Anakin's turn and it gives Palpatine time to regain his power long enough to force push Mace out the window.

From MF.com:

EPISODE III : Revenge of the Sith Soundtrack Report

8th April, 2005

The Revenge of the Sith Soundtrack enters new territory. It's a very operatic piece, more similar to The Phantom Menace than Attack of the Clones. Themes from the other five episodes are interwoven togeather to create the demise of Anakin Skywalker.

The battle scenes are adventurous with percussion beats that are very 'congo' sounding in their nature. There is also more choral work in this recording than any other episode. If I could break the main score up into smaller sections, it would be; Force Theme, Battle of the Heroes and Padme's tender motifs.

It does suffer from some repetition but that is about the only bad thing I can think of.

01 - Star Wars and The Revenge Of The Sith 7:31

The normal opening crawl is short-lived, unlike other episodes. Whereas normally the scroll fades into infinity, the last part is cut off by a very adventurous yet dangerous motif – the space battle over Coruscant. After this brief motif, we are first introduced into the one of the most constant Themes on the soundtrack - The Force Theme (which is under-scored with a militaristic beat similar to the Droid Invasion Theme from TPM) which continues for quite a while; no doubt following a long camera shot into battle. The rest of the track continues in this fashion.

02 - Anakin's Dream 4:46

A beautiful Viola solo accompanied by a harp opens Anakin’s Dream. Across the Stars soon can be heard underneath the solo before the darker string section hits, and uncertainity arises, only to once again fall into the Love Theme. After more dark cues, the Force Theme echoes things to come.

03 - Battle Of The Heroes 3:42

The new major Theme for Star Wars. The theme consists of a busy bass line with choral pieces intertwined.

04 - Anakin's Betrayal 4:04

Sections of the Love Theme again can be heard with strings and horns interwoven.

05 - General Grievous 4:07

A 'congo' sounding piece that no doubt will sound fantastic on screen.

06 - Palpatine's Teachings 5:25

This track reminds me of the soundtrack of the Dark Crystal. A deep male voice 'moans' with a metalic sound over the top. It then moves into the Love Theme which flows into Vader's Theme. Followed is a variation on the Force Theme - kinda interesting. After some more dark music, a brilliant Arrival at Coruscant theme from TPM ends the piece.

07 - Grievous and the Droids 3:28

Standard fight music here. Very TPM 'Droid Invasion' like, IMO.

08 - Padme's Ruminations 3:17

Deadly eerie. It doesn't sound like it should be in Star Wars. A long note held on a double bass glides as Amazonian like flutes and a synthesised women's solo flows over top. This is just ****en eerie.

It is soon followed by a movement in the lower strings section that reminds me of Palpatine's Chambers in RotJ. Horns pulse every now and then.

09 - Anakin vs. Obi-Wan 3:57

Battle of the Heroes starts off this piece before we quickly get into Vader's Theme. Back to Battle of the Heroes; first solo, then the string section picks it up. There is then another familiar theme (the one which was played during the teaser trailer as Vader rises). We then have a busy string section before more Vader's Theme - followed again by that 'familiar' theme. Enter the Chorus and another section of Battle of Heroes that crescendos into strings and soon the Force Theme with a pumping base raises its head, followed again by Battle of the Heroes.

10 - Anakin's Dark Deeds 4:05

A soft introduction leads to a wall of Chorus (very LotRish). After a 'fight' like music, it enters on a really soft section that echoes the way Padme is represented in this score. The ending is so sad to the track before before brass finishes it off.

11 - Enter Lord Vader 4:14

A soft introduction is soon met with variations of the Battle of the Heroes Theme. There is a small part of this that reminds of the music from the Rebels in the OT. A miliatristic section soon ends with Vader's Theme and another playing of the Force Theme which is followed by the Emperor's Theme.

12 - The Immolation Scene 2:42

A dark and omnious piece.

13 - Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious 2:49

Most have heard this on Star Wars.Com. The end of this piece is a variation on the Love Theme which is dark.

14 - The Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny 3:37

A lilting bass line from Across the Stars is overscored by a harp and glockenspiel (sounding). It is then followed by a majestic version of Qui-Gon's Funeral Theme (which I feel has just become the Naboo Funeral Theme) which is played about three times in total.

15 - A New Hope and End Credits 13:06

This is the longest piece of music on the soundtrack. A beautiful segue into Leia's Theme is followed by the Force Theme. The Force Theme is repeated and grows (but don't expect a big finale) before we enter the End Credit sequence.

Leia's Theme follows the standard Star Wars End Credit Theme. Battle of the Heroes takes off where Leia's Theme finishes. The Throne Room Theme then hits in at the end of BotH. The middle section of the The Throne Room is extremely legato compared to the ending in ANH. After this part is finished its back into the main section.

It sounds like it is about to finish as in ANH when it suddenly enters a really delicate version of the Force Theme. The Theme then shifts up and plays again before entering the Throne Room Theme once more. This plays out until the finale Star Wars Theme.

Does anyone know the release of the soundtrack yet?

May 3, 2005.

Thanks

I finally got around to getting some figures before I saw Sin City. 4-armed Grievous and his bodyguard.

By the way, timewolf, the line, I believe, is "an old man dies. a young girl lives. fair trade."

I'm going by the movie quote. In the movie its said:

"An old man dies... a little girl lives... fair trade."

and

"An old man dies... a young woman lives... fair trade."

Ok, perhaps I'm wrong.

According to the Internet Movie Database:

An old man dies. A young girl lives. A fair trade. I love Nancy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401792/quotes

I've heard a few of the themes. Can't say I care much for the new "big" theme (Battle of the Heroes), I first heard it in one of the TV spots last week and hoped it was a piece of third-party music they had just tacked in there. The best parts I've heard are all reworkings of the Original Trilogy soundtrack, that's down to the sad fact that John Williams is half the composer he used to be.

You lose.


I like Battle of the Heroes, its like DOTF only matured.

What about the second time he says it?

That is the second time he says it. The first time he says it is, "An old man dies... a little girl lives... fair trade."

Meh... I thought it sounded more like DotF being played backwards.

Gone, but not forgotten:

O-M-F-G

you would think they would have removed all the burned tissue from anakin before they put him in the vader suit...

We don't take kindly to your logic around here. It just looks too cool.

Well, there wouldn't have been much left...

Damnit.. now I know how Grevious dies.

The movie's completely spoilt now.

Stupid thread.

AK, Grevious' character takes up a grand total of about one page of script. He's not really integral to the plot...

He's just there to show the reason why Vader can be saved , but I imagine he'll be overhyped and become the next Boba Fett.

Speaking of Grievous, he's in the newer TV spots:
Unite
Jedi Action 1
Jedi Action 2

I know Timewolf, I'm just referring to the fact that he has very little screen time.

I know Bill, I was just adding on to your point.

Well, seeing that the thread title is "Episode III - More Images (Possible Spoilers)[/b]"...

Yes a valid point there. You knew what you were getting into when you clicked it.

Also, the new tv spots remind me of the OT trailers from way back when. That's sort of cool.

I saw the TV spots earlier.

Grevious sounds like Smeagol.

just waht i thought