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Episode III - More Images (Possible Spoilers)
2005-01-31, 4:38 PM #121
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Originally posted by Avenger
Seems like a stretch.../B]


Say it with me.

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2005-01-31, 4:42 PM #122
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Originally posted by Shadow89
can you put the dialog in a spoiler tag? I really don't want to read what it says. :(


Done, although the dialogue isn't really anything spoilerish, it's pretty vague.
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2005-02-01, 8:46 AM #123
EPISODE II TERNIAN REPORT: It Is Your Destiny...

Febuary 1 2005

"...Only now, at the end, do you understand." Emperor Palpatine, Return of the Jedi

When Anakin arrives at the window of the private office, he can see only bodies and Fisto's head. He cuts through the glass and steps inside. Passing through the short corridor, he enters the Chancellors public office, where Palpatine duels with Master Windu.

Anakin stands by and watches the duel in the shadows.

The battling Mace cuts a hole in the window of the office, planning to push Sidious out, but that does not work initially. They fight again, slowly moving towards the window. They eventually end up outside the office, on the narrow ledge of the Republic Executive Office. The rain continues to fall.

After intense fighting, Mace cuts Palpatine's saber in half. The Sith suddenly turns and addresses Anakin who can now be seen in the office.

"You see? Didn't I warn you of the Jedi and their treason?" he says. Mace continues his stare at the Chancellor.

Suddenly, just when Mace is about to strike down and destroy the Sith, Palpatine unleashes his power and lightning strikes from his hand. His face ages dramaticially into an aged old man before the Jedi's eyes.

"FOOL!" he exclaims.

Mace blocks the lightning with his blade but this is a hard moment for both combatants as they both begin to call to Anakin. Anakin now stands at Mace's shoulder, unsure what to do: Sidious wants him to kill the traitor but the Jedi Master orders him to kill the Sith and fulfill his destiny as the Chosen One.

At last, Palpatine collapses and begs for mercy from Mace. Mace, however, does not accept it. He moves for a final blow and then...

"Wait!..." cries Anakin.


--------

Some dialogue from the Mace, Anakin and Palpatine scene:
ANAKIN
Wait!

ANAKIN grabs MACE's arm.

ANAKIN (cont)
Don't kill him...you just can't kill him Master.

MACE
Yes I can, I have to.

ANAKIN
You came to arrest him. He has to stand trial.

MACE
A trial would be a joke. He controls the courts. He controls the Senate.

ANAKIN
So are you going to kill all of them too? Like he said you would?

MACE yanks his arm free.

MACE
He's too dangerous to be left alive. If you could have taken Dooku alive, would you have?

ANAKIN shows no emotion.

ANAKIN
That was different.

MACE
You can explain the difference after he's dead.
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2005-02-01, 10:02 AM #124
Windu is the man.
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2005-02-01, 10:54 AM #125
Mace Windu is The Punisher.
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2005-02-01, 11:18 AM #126
That scene sounds awesome, but now we have to see Sam Jackson be able to act that scene out (along with the rest of the movie, because so far, Mace has = sucked in terms of acting. Granted, he doesn't have the greatest script to work with).
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2005-02-01, 12:18 PM #127
what about Jules from Pulp Fiction style Mace Windu?

"Normally, both you guys would be dead as fried chicken, but you happen to pull this while I'm in the jedi council so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me."
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2005-02-01, 12:41 PM #128
Spoilers = awesome :D

2005-02-01, 6:22 PM #129
EPISODE III TERNIAN REPORT: Choices

Febuary 2 2005

"You can't stop change any more than you can stop the suns from setting. Listen to your feelings; Anakin, you know whats right." Shmi Skywalker, Episode I

"Fear is the path to the Dark side...fear leads to anger...anger leads to hate...hate leads to suffering." Master Yoda, Episode I

"You're going to die in childbirth." - Anakin Skywalker, Revenge of the Sith

"Rise, Lord Vader." Emperor Palpatine, Revenge of the Sith


"Wait!" cries Anakin, grabbing Mace's arm from delivering the final blow. "Don't kill him...you just can't kill him Master. "

"Yes I can," replies Mace, "I have to."

"You came to arrest him. He has to stand trial. "

"A trial would be a joke. He controls the courts. He controls the Senate."

"So are you going to kill all of them too?" asks Anakin. "Like he said you would?"

Mace yanks his arm free. "He's too dangerous to be left alive. If you could have taken Dooku alive, would you have?

Anakin stares at Mace, "That was different."

"You can explain the difference after he's dead," replies Mace sternly.

"I need him alive! I need him to save Padme!" says Anakin to a bewildered Mace.

But Mace just turns and is about to finish his final strike against The Sith when Anakin unleashes his anger and cuts off Mace's saber hand. Sidious suddenly jumps to his feet and unleashes Force lightning of immense power, lifting Mace up and throwing him out of the broken window to his death below.

Once Mace is killed, Anakin pledges his attachment to the Sith Order. Sidious gives him the title DARTH VADER and instructs him in his first mission... sterilization of the Jedi Temple.
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2005-02-01, 9:08 PM #130
This thread should be stickied.

And Mace is one bad mofo.
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2005-02-01, 9:29 PM #131
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Originally posted by mscbuck
That scene sounds awesome, but now we have to see Sam Jackson be able to act that scene out (along with the rest of the movie, because so far, Mace has = sucked in terms of acting. Granted, he doesn't have the greatest script to work with).


That can essentially apply to everything in this thread. I don't mean to rain on the party, but most of you seem a little foolish in calling this the best thing ever. You haven't SEEN anything yet save for a few pictures. You haven't HEARD anything, you've just read snippits of dialouge. They can read awesome, but can be acted crappily.

I think it's silly to call this the best movie of the new trilogy until it's actually finished and in theaters. Right now I'm pictureing a bunch of people running to theaters ready for an awesome movie, and then leaving mad as hell because it sucked just as bad as the last two.

Wait until you have definitive proof before judging. Until then, I see this as all really neat stuff, but by no means proof that the movie will rock.
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2005-02-01, 9:31 PM #132
I still fail to see why people hated AotC...
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2005-02-01, 9:54 PM #133
It's fairly obvious that Lucas is trying to recycle his old tricks to make this movie better.

It's going to suck.

I mean...just look at Obi-wan when he's watching Anakin and Palpatine...

[http://imagecorner.sorrowind.net/42/8.jpg]
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2005-02-02, 1:32 AM #134
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Originally posted by THRAWN
I still fail to see why people hated AotC...


Yeah, me too, actually. I liked both TPM and AotC. Call me weird!
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2005-02-02, 1:33 AM #135
Nah, just AotC here :D
I can't think of anything to put here right now.
2005-02-02, 6:01 AM #136
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Originally posted by Veger
It's fairly obvious that Lucas is trying to recycle his old tricks to make this movie better.

It's going to suck.

I mean...just look at Obi-wan when he's watching Anakin and Palpatine...


. . . :confused:
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2005-02-02, 7:26 AM #137
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Originally posted by THRAWN
I still fail to see why people hated AotC...


Anakin. Jar-Jar. The movies drag. The acting was bad, there was so little emotion behind it.

Both movies have their good parts. The duel with Darth maul in TPM, the Geonosis battle in AotC.

Honestly, those movies were awesome the first 5 times I saw them. Why? The sheer coolness of the effects overwrote anything else. After you get past that, there's no reason to watch it.
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2005-02-02, 9:31 AM #138
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Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast
. . . :confused:


Bah...
It was supposed to be funny :(.

Indiana Jones, one of his more successful franchises, being recycled and used in his latest Star Wars movie in an attempt to get more viewers because the last 2 movies sucked.



Not that he needs more viewers anyway, but...

ok it wasn't well thought out :P.
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2005-02-02, 9:33 AM #139
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Originally posted by phoenix_9286
Anakin. Jar-Jar. The movies drag. The acting was bad, there was so little emotion behind it.

Both movies have their good parts. The duel with Darth maul in TPM, the Geonosis battle in AotC.

Honestly, those movies were awesome the first 5 times I saw them. Why? The sheer coolness of the effects overwrote anything else. After you get past that, there's no reason to watch it.

I don't believe the acting was that great in the original trilogy either...

The movies have never been about the acting or effects for me, I just love the story and the universe...ok the effects are a little bit of it...
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2005-02-02, 10:21 AM #140
Not the clearest, but nonetheless they are new:

[http://img161.exs.cx/img161/363/palp18nw.jpg]

After the death of Padme:
[http://img161.exs.cx/img161/4553/end19qd.jpg]
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2005-02-02, 10:39 AM #141
On the subject of the PT/OT, allow me to tell you guys about my experience.

I'm probably one of the biggest SW nerds you'll ever find. I've read a lot of the EU, I have every one of the essential guides (along with a couple of the SWRPG sourcebooks), I own, or have played, most of the SW video and computer games to be released, and I've seen all the movies atleast thrice (and more for the original trilogy). I love the prequels. I'm also a pretty big moviegoer; I used to go see new movies atleast once a week (usually more), and I rent and buy things in between.

Now, I hadn't seen the original trilogy all the way through for about three or four years when the OT DVD's came out, so I decided to watch them again over the course of three days.

I COULD BARELY STAND IT. They were slow and boring, with more cringe-worthy acting than I had seen in a very long time. But I made myself sit through all three movies, just to say that I did. Now, granted, they were still star wars, and I still loved them, and they weren't all bad. But honestly, I found it hard to believe that someone could bash the prequel trilogy as much as they do, when the original trilogy was just as bad (and in some places, worse)
Moo.
2005-02-02, 10:42 AM #142
Hm, as a non-spoiled Finnish Gentleman, I can see how the SW films aren't masterpieces, but they're fun. The Prequel Trilogy is just less fun.

But Episode III will be the best of the Prequels, as it has some serious Imperial ownage. The end of Episode II already had it... but still, this is the first time the Empire (I don't care if it's called the Republic there, it's all Empire to me) actually is able to rock! Hot-diggity-nerdy-damn!
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2005-02-02, 10:54 AM #143
Quote:
Now, I hadn't seen the original trilogy all the way through for about three or four years when the OT DVD's came out, so I decided to watch them again over the course of three days.

I COULD BARELY STAND IT. They were slow and boring, with more cringe-worthy acting than I had seen in a very long time.


I.. I don't think I can ever hold any respect for you now. :( BEGONE FROM MY SIGHT, HEATHEN! :mad:
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2005-02-02, 11:15 AM #144
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Originally posted by Freelancer
I.. I don't think I can ever hold any respect for you now. :( BEGONE FROM MY SIGHT, HEATHEN! :mad:


Well, I mean, come on; There's only so much you can dislike star wars :P My point was, though, that I don't see why people bash the prequel trilogy for "bad acting" or being slow and boring or anything like that, when the original trilogy was just as bad
Moo.
2005-02-02, 12:07 PM #145
We live in a world of Paris Hilton and Brad Pitt, where things blow up 50x in 30 seconds.

We don't live in a world where excellent storytelling comes into play, as much anyway.

THAT'S why The OT rocks.

THAT'S why I liked Sky Captain and hte World of Tommorrow.

THAT'S why Indiana Jones rocks

THAT's why the Lord of the Rings doesn't have waves of computer special effects, but is hailed for it's great story.

*cough* one of those might be a little off.
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2005-02-02, 12:31 PM #146
I think I just noticed a trend...

The last two SW movies, and possibly this latest one, will ALL have started with a ship blowing up.

In TPM, the Republic Cruiser was blown up.
In AtoC, the Nubian Crusier was blown up.
In RotS, some new ship will probably be blown up.

O_o
He can't start the movie without blowing something up?
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2005-02-02, 12:42 PM #147
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Originally posted by Veger
the Lord of the Rings doesn't have waves of computer special effects
*cough* one of those might be a little off.


I hope that's the part that is a little off...
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2005-02-02, 1:21 PM #148
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Originally posted by phoenix_9286
Anakin. Jar-Jar. The movies drag. The acting was bad, there was so little emotion behind it.


Newsflash: The acting in the orignal trilogy wasn't exactly Oscar caliber. You have seen A New Hope , haven't you?

Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
I think I just noticed a trend...

The last two SW movies, and possibly this latest one, will ALL have started with a ship blowing up.

In TPM, the Republic Cruiser was blown up.
In AtoC, the Nubian Crusier was blown up.
In RotS, some new ship will probably be blown up.

O_o
He can't start the movie without blowing something up?


All three of the OT opened with a Star Destroyer. What's your point?
Pissed Off?
2005-02-02, 1:26 PM #149
Yea, you guys give crit on the prequels that the original trilogy had problems with also. Seems some people just criticize the movies to jump on the bandwagon, I thought they were just as good.
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2005-02-02, 3:08 PM #150
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
Anakin. Jar-Jar. The movies drag. The acting was bad, there was so little emotion behind it.

Both movies have their good parts. The duel with Darth maul in TPM, the Geonosis battle in AotC.

Honestly, those movies were awesome the first 5 times I saw them. Why? The sheer coolness of the effects overwrote anything else. After you get past that, there's no reason to watch it.


I'm sorry, but the old trilogy had horrible acting in it. Luke whining, the snotty commanders in ESB "Good. Our first catch of the day." Seriously, when you break it down, other than the annoying Anakin (at age 9, not the adult) and Jar Jar, the only thing that ruins the new movies are the overuse of CGI.

Quote:
Originally posted by Veger
We live in a world of Paris Hilton and Brad Pitt, where things blow up 50x in 30 seconds.

We don't live in a world where excellent storytelling comes into play, as much anyway.

THAT'S why The OT rocks.

THAT'S why I liked Sky Captain and hte World of Tommorrow.

THAT'S why Indiana Jones rocks

THAT's why the Lord of the Rings doesn't have waves of computer special effects, but is hailed for it's great story.

*cough* one of those might be a little off.



LotR sucked.
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2005-02-02, 3:18 PM #151
Quote:
Originally posted by THRAWN
LotR sucked.


Your opinion is WRONG.
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2005-02-02, 3:34 PM #152
Oi vey.
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2005-02-02, 3:47 PM #153
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Originally posted by Veger
[http://imagecorner.sorrowind.net/42/8.jpg]


This movie's gonna rock!
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2005-02-02, 5:01 PM #154
Man, you guys wouldn't know good acting if it bit you in the ***. ANH had far better acting than the prequals... I imagine it's a little easier to believe you're somewhere you're not when you're not spending 95% of your time in front of a blue wall.
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2005-02-02, 5:07 PM #155
It's no different than theatre acting, which is where most actors get their start.
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2005-02-02, 5:09 PM #156
No one's going to argue that. You can tell that by looking at LotR and Ep. I & II. Still, people complain about Anakin being whiny when Luke is whiny in ANH. Also, whatthe hell was the psuedo British accent used by Leia? There are planty of parallels
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2005-02-02, 5:13 PM #157
I love the British accent used by the imperial officers. It just adds so much. ;)
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2005-02-02, 6:00 PM #158
That I like too.
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2005-02-02, 6:07 PM #159
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Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast
It's no different than theatre acting, which is where most actors get their start.


Since when do theatre actors stand in front of a blue wall? I imagine that'd make for a rather boing play...

They have sets, props, and sometimes other people to react off of. Actors against a blue screen aren't gaurenteed ANY of that.
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2005-02-02, 6:28 PM #160
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
Since when do theatre actors stand in front of a blue wall? I imagine that'd make for a rather boing play...

They have sets, props, and sometimes other people to react off of. Actors against a blue screen aren't gaurenteed ANY of that.


WRONG. Watch the making of AOTC or TPM. When interacting with CGI characters there was always a placeholder there to react with; most of the time the voice actor (save Frank Oz). When Anakin and Obi-Wan are in the speeder during the Coruscant chase they had a TV in front of them projecting an anamatic of what they would be "seeing" had they actually been flying through the city. When Padme was attacked by a Geonosian and fell she interacted with a guy in a blue suit. That's still something to react to. Fighting General Grievous' bodyguards in Episode III, Ewan McGregor fought men in blue suits as well, interacting with the weapons that the CGI bodyguards would be using.
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