Bioware's little joke - Crew Survival, completely random.

I'm pretty sure the survival of the infiltrator depends on the loyalty/competence of the fireteam leader.

And surviving the platform crash is based on loyalty afaik

By the way, am I the only one who expected the Human-Repear to say "I'll be back" before he fell out of sight?

HASTA LA VISTA BABY

Yep. I believe only your infiltrator can die at that stage, but he or she can die either because of his own failure or the fire team leader's.

My first thought (and verbal statement) upon seeing it was 'Holy **** it's a huge triple eight!"

My wife said, from another room, "I thought you were playing a space game, not a terminator game."

Upon entering, she said "That's dumb, why did they build a huge terminator? They could at least have built a pretty Cameron robot instead of that ugly one."

Hah! Originality fail Bioware.

I really don't know whats up with all their characters going cross-eyed in this game though.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who had that problem

i noticed a lot of silly animation things. the biggest one i notice is when you're on the normandy and you go to talk to people you see shepard's head looking off to one side as you're going straight

I saw the cross eyes a lot. I also had a problem where my character wasn't standing in the right place, so the camera was showing empty space while Shepard was talking. I would occasionally see a hand in the picture if Shepard made a gesture.

I also encountered a problem that forced me to reload my game. I approached a computer at the beginning of a mission and tried to read the log. It played fine while I went to hack open the safe next to it (as usual). However, when I finished with the safe, I was standing on top of the computer and couldn't get down. I could run around on the computer, I could fire, use powers, whatever, I just could not get down. It made me mad. I reloaded, and did the exact same thing, and it didn't happen. Later, I activated a log on another computer, and turned to go look around while it played, and ended up on top of the computer again, with the same problem. :angry:

I think your right, all my characters were loyal, except for Miranda because she is a ***** and is jealous I helped out Jack.

Oh man, running all over the ship his head is like trying to go up his ***

Playing through ME1 again.
I noticed how many more quests in ME1 feature no gunplay, just dialogue.
ME2 has nearly none of those type of quests, looks like they put all that effort into the new 18 mission structure.

I noticed a handful, but very limited. Mostly items you picked up during various missions and had to return to the right people. Otherwise there are a few on Illium, like Liara's questline, Conrad Verner's, Parsini's, then things like that Quarian on the citadel who's accused of stealing a Volus' chip. On Omega there are things like Patriarch and the Quarian kid who wants to get off world.

Most of them are incredibly short though.


I started a new run on Hardcore with an infiltrator. I'm having a tough time adjusting to the new class after playing the more aggressive Vanguard and dying a lot, but I'll get the hang of it sure enough. I tried a sentinel for a few minutes last night which is interesting too.

I was wondering this yesterday, he has a habit of looking down while he runs around the ship...

Heheh, I figure its just a lame bug. I don't get how that got past testers considering how much time you spend on the ship.

It probably didn't. My guess is there were lots of bigger bugs that had priority over 'crossed eyes and droopy posture'.

Tester: Hey yeah uhhh... when I shoot my new Assault Rifle, it makes a fart noise?
Dev: Ohhh haha, yeah sorry we must have forgot to take that one out. Friday night laughs you know?

Speaking of assault rifles, its annoying when you go to a cutscene and shepard's wielding an assault rifle when your character doens't even carry one.


HOWEVER.

Joker with an assault rifle is

wasn't there some dialogue in either ME1 or ME2 where joker says the recoil from an assault rifle would pretty much break every bone in his body?

I think so, but it could have had a recoil dampener!

Besides, maybe Cerberus was kind enough to aid his situation a little. Or Dr. Chakwas had a breakthrough. I just look at it for the awesome factor, because Joker's easily my favorite support character in the series. Besides he DESERVED to get payback on the Collectors after what they put him through during a certain surprise attack.

I think Seth Green just pushed for his character, because he does that. I think I'd take a few broken bones just to be a bad *** in a space battle.

Hey did anyone figure out what effect Conrad had on ME2? I don't even think I saw him at all??? I was nice to the guy.

hes supposed to be on the citadel but i have yet to see him.

He's on Ilium, in the bar.

Where at? I don't remember seeing him at all... or even talking to him.

Yep, what Darth say. He's on Illium in the bar. At one point on your way there, there should be some asari who asks you to go stop some moron causing trouble inside.

Basically, after you died, he bought a replica N7 armor and started going around being a jerk to everyone, because, you know, you treated him like a jerk and gave him the idea that to save the galaxy you needed to be an ***.

Its a bit 'bugged' in that he always says you shoved a gun in his face even if you didn't (using the paragon option).

I wont spoil the fun you can have with him though >:D

When I went to the bar, there was someone outside complaining about this human guy inside who was making a ruckus in the bar or something. Then when I went in, I found out that it was Conrad, and he was at the bar arguing with the bartender.

Who cares about Conrad, the bartender was the best part. I want that bartender as my asari teammate, not Samara or whatever the hell her name is.

I'm almost 100% sure that did not happen in my game. I remember the bartender. The Matriarch(sp?) right?

Yes.

Yeah he was definitely not there in my game. Maybe I did something wrong?

Anyway, I started a new game, this time putting Anderson on the council instead of Udina. Hope I get a meeting this time.

Maybe you didn't finish the Conrad questline in the first game with that imported savegame?

*shrugs*... I don't remember any of that... I guess it's possible I could have phased out on one of my 6+ hour sits of playing the game. Meh.

don't worry, i haven't seen it either. for a few minutes i thought he was at the bar on the citadel.

I missed it too. There might just be some gaps in my final playthrough with Ryan Shepard.

Just finished my first playthrough as a Vanguard. Been avoiding this thread ever since I got the game a week ago, and I'm glad that I finally managed a game this epic without having something spoiled (usually I get too curious or read/hear something by accident). Will start my next game soon when I've settled on a class. Probably Sentinel.

I got utterly compulsive with the mining minigame until a fair way into the game when I realised that I had more resources than I'd ever need to spend. After that I just clicked on planets once to get every system up to 100% explored and to check for side missions. Not sure if that system worked out any better than the Mako from the first game, to be honest. It just doesn't seem like they considered just how much fun either option would be on subsequent playthroughs.


Yeah, the middle option (the one that wasn't "I am/am not interested") ended with Shepard saying something like "I'd never risk your safety like that whilst on a mission, no matter how interested I might be." I thought Tali was really well written during this part; it was a thought that came up in discussions of the first game about how a romance would've worked if they'd included Tali, and it always did strike me as odd, but her character carried over well.

The ammo system grated a little bit at first because I didn't understand how it differentiated the different weapons. I think I get it a bit better now but I basically almost exclusively used the SMG throughout the game (huge ammo capacity by the end of the game, near 800 rounds) and broke out a heavy pistol for when a mech turned up. This is where I felt they could've included a couple more choices rather than having a starting weapon and one upgrade (maybe a third in some categories). The ammo capacity for the heavy pistol was a joke, and I honestly thought the shotgun felt absolutely useless. At long range (obviously), and up close it still wasn't putting out enough damage to keep your own arse safe.

I feel I've been a bit negative so far, so for the things I like. The new minigames are good, and I like how a lot of content is no longer blocked off because I didn't choose a 'tech' class. Pretty much everyone you meet in this game is really well written and acted. I liked the banter you get whilst wandering around the ship (particularly the two engineers). I like that the achievements have been altered so there's less grinding involved, and that they've removed the "Complete the majority of the game with ______" ones so I can switch out characters as I feel like it. The health system was fine by me, and if we're having ammunition being included as part of the lore then health should be too (codex says armoured suits distribute medi-gel to "patch up" wound sites). The interruption system is also a great idea (and some of the Renegade options shown in that video on the first page are great).

Oh, and Mordin singing Gilbert and Sullivan.

I was worried for the first 20 hours or so that the game was going to be way too short. It just felt like it was building up to a climax way too quickly, although it turns out there was plenty of meat to the game so it was a bit of a non-issue in the end.

I pretty much agree with what Jep said on the first page:


I've also got to voice my agreement with Thrawn about the deaths of characters. Very rarely have I been this involved in wanting every member of my crew to make it through the end (which I managed), and it's started me wondering just how different the finale goes if you have few people (or even no-one) loyal to you. Perfect example of caring for the crew in this game was during Tali's loyalty mission. Using the Paragon interruption to give her a hug after finding her father was a very touching moment.

Oh, and if anyone's interested: Zaeed's loyalty does not factor in to getting the "No One Left Behind" achievement.

Some more points as I've been reading through this thread:

Wasn't Mordin the leader of his Salarian special forces group?


I actually made that joke to my housemate because he came in to watch the finale >.>

I was also thinking about Joker using the assault rifle. I guess Cerberus gave him some medical help with his condition while he was working for them since he was pretty mobile, but I can't remember what he said (if anything) about his condition affecting his mobility in the first game.

This may be my longest post on here, ever.

It took me exactly 30 hours to beat the game. All side quests completed (except the world exploration). Definitely worth the money in my books. More gameplay than most shooter games get, granted this has a lot of RPG mixed in.