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NeS workshop
2005-11-23, 12:36 AM #601
I intend to update Gebiyl/S. Geb's profile to be fuller like good Gebohq's profile, but until then, here's an update on what's going on with our evil Geb...

First, let me tell you the story behind the "morph punch." Long ago, back on page 1, the NeS wasn't really itself quite yet. Geb, for instance, use to resemble something like crossing a grey Alien-thing with a Star Wars (Imperial/Rebel) commando. He was all about being on the "line" between Good and Evil, and in general hardly resembles the Gebohq that has been a staple of NeS. He also had the ability to appear like anything he touched (within reason), based on an old cog/cheat called the "morph punch" that was once available for Jedi Knight. This power was only ever used on page 1, and never mentioned again. When Geb was "made" human, it was decided by default that he no longer had this power, and rightfully so -- Gebohq is meant to be a very human character, at least relative to NeS, so there was no problem with this.

Since I've been using Gebiyl, however, I've been able to explore facets of Geb that would never crop up in the good Gebohq himself. I must make it clear though that Gebiyl/S. Geb is NOT "remembering some old power" in this case -- as far as I'm concerned, this is a villianous quality made apparent through unusual circumstances. S. Geb tries punching Young, but the NeS doesn't wish harm to come upon Young, but because the villians have the upper hand, an advantage has been revealed to S. Geb -- the ability to "shapeshift" into what he touches. However, whether because his target was Young or because he's cursed or for some other reason, his "shapeshift" of Young was a broken one.

Why did I decide to give him this power, you ask? He already has the EeP in his control (or does it control him?), he has Gebohq's body and the NeSword (among other things) and thus more control over NeS itself, perhaps more than Geb himself now, and with the equivilant of a thousand years of intelligence in the use of NeS magic and NeS story-wielding... well, isn't that enough, you might ask? Of course it is, but I don't consider this "shapeshifting" to be a new power as much as a revelation of how his power could be applied. It's a classic villianous ability, and I feel it's a natural insight on his bugged-game, speedrunner, "glitch" quality.

With that said, here's the details on the "shapeshifting" ability:
  • He must come into physical contact via his hands with whatever he wishes to "shapeshift" into.
  • The target must be humanoid, or of relative size (no giants, no tiny bugs).
  • He gains no powers, abilities, etc. of whatever he shifts into, nor does he actually BECOME the target -- he only APPEARS by all senses (or at least visual) to have done so.
  • He may transform back into his own form at will, but he can not "remember" what he has shifted into. If he wishes to shift back into something he has shifted in before, he must come into contact with that target again to do so.


I hope you all don't mind this ability I have brought out. It's meant more to be a side-fun thing than any super-important plot element. I certainly don't have any specific ideas in any case -- only to heighten Gebiyl's villianous side in general and, in the more immediate case, attempt to "probe" Young and/or shift as her without error (not likely to be successful with his morphing ability).
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2005-11-23, 10:16 PM #602
I would just like to poll for precedent before I continue writing along the current plot:

Does the NeS lore (last ~50 pages of NeS2 + the original) say anything about “lost characters”? That is a character who has played a role and then simply disappeared form the story? This pertains not only to characters from NeS and the NeS related realms, but in theory to characters from any story?

Also, Voodoo, please post some more… Your posts have been great so far, and I feel bad helping to drive the story without your feedback on the direction, VS is still your character no matter what we write. Please?
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2005-11-24, 12:58 AM #603
and I'm now completely lost on what to do with Sarn...

Ultimately, he's going to be trying to rescue Voodoo, but in the mean time... what?
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2005-11-24, 7:04 AM #604
West Wind: Funny you should ask that. The last story arc we did delved a whole bunch into the idea of forgotten characters and the like. I think TLTE could better explain any themes or whatnot we had going, but if you want to read it yourself, I think it started about page 9 (but here's a clickie to the post where the last story arc more or less started), and the part you'll want to look at in particular is the "Journey to Jupiter" part.

Also, I'll poke at Ms. Snowflakes for us all ;)

Sarn Cadrill: This is the NeS -- do whatever you want. :p I would imagine maybe Mayaal will boot Sarn back where he was, maybe give him some cryptic advise on what to do next, like directions to where (S.) Geb went to (Russian bunker) in hopes that the "new guys" can rescue Young and stop S. Geb. /shrug/

In any case, you new writers are doing a damn fine job. I haven't seen NeS this crazy-active in a long while, and it feels cool :)
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2005-11-24, 2:01 PM #605
I'm not sure, should it stay with him, or what? I think we can agree it's a powerful weapon, but it shouldn't be able to kill the hands only hurt and leave a periodical scar. If we made the scars perminent, he could technically cut a hand into pieces and it'd be perminent. I guess we'll say he gave it back to Sarn, considering Mayaal's got power over sarn. Think of it as a weapon for his minion. Especially for use against Bhac.

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2005-11-24, 2:07 PM #606
ok, that's what I was thinking too... I let my post vague on that to be safe.
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2005-11-24, 10:15 PM #607
[QUOTE=West Wind]I would just like to poll for precedent before I continue writing along the current plot:

Does the NeS lore (last ~50 pages of NeS2 + the original) say anything about “lost characters”? That is a character who has played a role and then simply disappeared form the story? This pertains not only to characters from NeS and the NeS related realms, but in theory to characters from any story?[/QUOTE]

I thought the whole time you were talking about this in your posts you were going to link up with my past story arc. It literally just happened. In short, TLTE's friend Michael was a lost character that no one wrote about, so he gathered all the other forgotten characters and tried to invade Earth. London is currently still overrun with the forces of the lost characters and Helebon's demonic forces. This battle has sank into the background, but presumably either the lost characters or the demons have won, and neither outcome is desirable for the NeSHeroes.
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2005-11-25, 9:02 PM #608
do not feel bad, i do have some ideas of were to go with Voodoo wile still planing on not having any plans. will try to post soon. but not today, trying to chill after the ultimate day in retail hell. if anyone does want to bug me or ask me something or whatever feel free to try to email or find me on AIM.
2005-12-01, 1:52 PM #609
I have another post coming, but at the moment I just got off of working for 12 hours as a cop and need some sleep. Hopefully I'll be able to continue before I work again later today. If not, at least I got a foot in the door before it got slammed ;)
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2005-12-08, 1:35 AM #610
I'll make a story post soon, but until then, you all should check out this thread:

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?t=37902

It's relevant to the ISB, I swears! >_>
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2005-12-09, 11:20 PM #611
I'll be away for a week, visiting a rainy city on the other side of the country. Hopefully when I return I'll have enough reflective inspiration to grab the Potentials/Thand/Heroes plotline and really run with it, although feel free to surprise me when I return...
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-13, 4:31 PM #612
Hi. I've just been reading the latest bits of NeS. I'm thinking of posting again...maybe in a month or so.

See ya.
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2005-12-13, 4:35 PM #613
*starts chanting "POST POST POST!"
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2005-12-22, 11:01 AM #614
For those of you who don't know, I'll be visiting my mother and such in England (details here) and won't be back until after New Year's Day. I'll still have Internet access, but like many of you, I don't know how much story-writing I'll be doing. I was hoping to make a post before I left, but I meant to do a lot of other things too... stupid laziness. Maybe we can do a silly holiday diversion over the next week or so?

Hope you all have a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year's, Happy Boxing Day... you know, just be happy ;)
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2005-12-27, 1:23 PM #615
So England has been keeping me distracted as of late, but I just wanted to say to TLTE or whomever writes stuff with Shadowlord. I love the fact that he's actually showing why he's called what he's called, but don't forget that he's the guy who ran a reality TV show and did other sorts of TV/broadcasting stuff, so that may or may not be helpful to remember, as it may come up somehow in any battle he has.
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2005-12-27, 6:13 PM #616
I'd better research that a little more before the next post - do you know where he was shown running the reality TV show?
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2005-12-28, 8:37 AM #617
He first shows up around pages 30-34 (the TACC/Hell bit) as he's running the reality show of DOOOM or the like. He's later running the PPV bit I think on pages 49-50, and then is next seen hanging with the Potentials.
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2005-12-28, 5:31 PM #618
Right, right. I've read all those sections extensively and have decided that they're not actually a key component of his character - more of a recurring motif in the original story that, let's face it, no one remembers.

Anyway, you need to go holiday, Geb. You're even directing business from England! Go on, shoo. Shoo!
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-28, 5:44 PM #619
Are you gonna write this battle post, TLTE? If not, I am.
2005-12-29, 7:40 PM #620
I'm doing it right now. Sorry to hold you up.
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2005-12-29, 8:12 PM #621
im working on a post right now as well... I guess well see who post's first...
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condition."... G. K. Chesterton

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2005-12-29, 8:27 PM #622
Sorry TLTE, I was almost done and I could not let a good post go to waste...
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

“questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself”
2005-12-29, 8:49 PM #623
****! Another simultaneous post! I don't know what to do, I turned down breakfast and lunch to get this post out so I don't want to lose it, but West Wind's is good too...I don't know what to do.
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-29, 9:03 PM #624
Hummm... Your's is a good post and I hate to just overwrite your battle... Perhaps we can do a bit of cut and paste...

If you drop the Midvok's final save the day plan and the subsequent trap-triggering, Then I can delete my post, make a few changes, and post it again with a few changes to keep continuity...
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

“questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself”
2005-12-30, 2:41 AM #625
West Wind, you've been a gentleman about all this so I'm inclined to defer to your judgment...however, CM seems to have gone with my storyline, despite your subsequent post. Why don't we say all the heroes from the cave are out in the jungle now, Shadowlord is dead or gone, and it's open to reader interpretation what really happened?
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-30, 10:51 AM #626
If the writers of NeS so deem it, it has happened...

Do you want me to edit out the "dream" part of my last post?
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

“questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself”
2005-12-30, 4:44 PM #627
If you could, that would make things less of a kerfuffle...what a messy chapter in the NeS this has been. My apologies for my part in it...
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-30, 4:50 PM #628
Done...

I just wish the Sadowlord had not dropped so quickly, I though evil was supposed to have the advantage during this arc...
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

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2005-12-30, 5:34 PM #629
Well, most "dead" villains in the NeS just take a bath in a plot-hole and come out swinging ten pages later. So I presume, as Shadowlord turned out to be a rather nifty villain, he'll be back (although my iteration of the storyline killed him quite convincingly).

And I actually thought, when Mayaal defeated Bhac by temporarily imprisoning him in a plot-hole, that signified the end of the villains' advantage. But that was probably, as the story goes on, an incorrect reading of the situation by myself.
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2005-12-31, 6:40 AM #630
Since we do seem to have a lot more posting going on lately, why don't we institute our old policy of posting a "hold post" while you are working on a post?

Then, when you're done, edit the post with the story post. This way, we should be able to reduce simultaneous posts.

Nothing more annoying than having to wipe 2-3 pages of text because two people had different versions of the same storyline. :(
2006-01-02, 3:34 PM #631
I agree
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2006-01-02, 7:19 PM #632
As do I. Let's make it policy. I'll print out flyers.
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2006-01-02, 7:19 PM #633
Just wanted to let you all know, for those of you who don't frequent the General Discussion forum, that I'm back from England, and that I've posted some pics:

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?t=38434

I'll see what I can do about writing again soon-like. Right now though I'm a bit stressed :(

As for the whole "post a placeholder" thing, I'm a fan of using that method just whenever you feel it's necessary, but whatever works :)
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2006-01-07, 9:42 PM #634
Stafford's post almost immediately after mine very nearly formed another plot inconsistency, but seeing as it's entirely likely the NeSHeroes would shift camp during the night to lose him, I'd say we continue as we were...
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2006-01-15, 10:25 AM #635
So I made a post, but I've got some questions (I read the current page so I sort of get what's going on, but not really).

  • Where are the old-timey heroes and villians (J-Bob, Otter, Galvatron, Krig, etc.)?
  • Is there some kind of mission to stop evil/save stuff from destruction/defeat people going on? (i.e. are we in the middle of a particular episode-thingy?)
  • What are Thatchett and Hawthorne up to? Are they good guys or bad guys? (does that distinction even matter?)


Basically, I guess I'm being lazy and looking for a brief synopsis...but knowing who's doing what for whatever reason (especially in regards to the 'old' characters) would help me get back into the swing of NeS.
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2006-01-15, 10:25 AM #636
Also, I made a bullet list.
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2006-01-15, 12:17 PM #637
Originally posted by Tracer:
So I made a post, but I've got some questions (I read the current page so I sort of get what's going on, but not really).

  • Where are the old-timey heroes and villians (J-Bob, Otter, Galvatron, Krig, etc.)?
  • Is there some kind of mission to stop evil/save stuff from destruction/defeat people going on? (i.e. are we in the middle of a particular episode-thingy?)
  • What are Thatchett and Hawthorne up to? Are they good guys or bad guys? (does that distinction even matter?)


Basically, I guess I'm being lazy and looking for a brief synopsis...but knowing who's doing what for whatever reason (especially in regards to the 'old' characters) would help me get back into the swing of NeS.


  • Don't Know.
  • Yes, we actually have two plots right now:
    On the one hand, CM, TLTE, Ante and a bunch of others are over in the Congo battling it out with the potentials.
    Then, back over here we have a plot with Hawthorne, Thatchett, Sok Munkey, Bhac, Sarn, and Voodoo which basically consists of just roaming around having a generally good time (also, Sarn is epically trying to rescue Voodoo and is probably in love with her).
  • Hawthorne and Thatchett aren’t UP to much... (Pun not quite intended). I guess you could call them good guy's, but I would not call them Hero's in any case.


Also, FYI (on the Hawthrone-Sarn Plot, AKA the CSotD plot):

Thatchett is a talking dog.
Sarn has the word Spelunk written on his forehead and Sneezes anytime anyone say the word.
Sarn thinks he's Captain Cadril for the time being.
There is a mysterious detective involved who has no name, and always has an unlit cigarette in his mouth.
The Detective Thinks Sarn, Bhac, and Sok Munkey are criminals and have kidnapped Hawthorne (not actually true).
Voodoo is currently in protective custody with aforementioned detective.
Sok Munkey may or may not be a zombie.

At least, this is how things appear to me.
"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

“questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself”
2006-01-15, 1:19 PM #638
I'll be honest, Tracer: this is the first in a long while where I'm not really sure what's all going on in NeS. Granted, part of it has to do with real-life distracting me (temporary setback :p), but I think a significant part of it is just that we got a lot of crazy stuff going on, what with us actually having a bunch of new writers sticking around and posting relatively consistantly :)

In any case, West Wind seems to have gotten the major points as far as I can tell. While the update section IS something like 2 months behind, it's still a pretty good place to see what active characters we got and such.

Specifically, to address the "old-time" characters issue, a lot of them aren't active anymore. Most, like Janitor Bob and Galvatron, have siimply unofficially been "retired" unless wanted for a specific cameo-thing. Krig's character has gone off on a sort of sabbatical (as has the writer himself :(). Here are the major "veterans" (characters before you mostly) I can think of that are active:

-Gebohq***
-Antestarr
-The Last True Evil (with some others in the Congo probably soon to fight the Potentials)
-Ares
-Morris the Cat (also in the Congo, but not hanging around with the hero-types)

-The Otter (with Qhobeg, out on a joyride to who knows where)

-Ford (gathering a new group of heroes of his own, as the NeS heroes are technically "disbanded" now)

-Maybechild (doing Greenpeace-like stuff
-Losien (doing Greenpeace-like stuff)

***Gebohq is technically body-swapped with Gebiyl, so Gebohq (in the Congo) is in Evil Geb's body (basically just means he's got evil-garb on and a mechanical hand). Evil Geb (posing as the real Geb, of course) is in a Siberian genetics bunker-thing, trying to do experiments on Young.

That's all the active veterans, I think. Maybe TLTE can fill you in on the bigger story concerning those in the Congo, or even on NeS in general.

Meanwhile, I'll be shaking an angry fist at things I thought would never distract me away from NeS...
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2006-01-16, 5:38 PM #639
Tracer, good to have you back. Basically, there are two prominent story arcs going on right now (that I am trying to unite somehow, though with little current success).

I'm working out in my mind whether to post and further Arkng Thand's adventure, or focus in on the plight of the heroes in the Congo, or perhaps unite the two story arcs.

(P.S. if someone posts and says "do it all" I'll have your eye out with a chopstick. Why? 1) I'm "beating you" in post count over the last few pages and 2) something about practising and preaching...
The Last True Evil - consistent nobody in the Discussion Forum since 1998
2006-01-16, 5:43 PM #640
do it a-

*ahem.

*wanders away
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