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NeS workshop
2004-09-04, 6:36 PM #201
Some FYI:

If ever it come to me and only me being able to give you all title-name-thingies, and you don't already have one, I'll supply names to the good ISBers. Otherwise, you'll have to hit up on an admin and/or hope you can edit your own custom title. This is not something I can do now, as I am a mere moderator. Feel free to petition otherwise though ;)

Also, I'll make this thread sticky, but I will not make story threads sticky, at least with NeS. I think having it "fall down" after the default 2 days has been and is a good way of keeping it alive/reminding people it hasn't been posted on in a while.

That's it for now.

/me grumbles like an old man about "youths trying to make plans for NeS"...
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2004-09-04, 6:43 PM #202
We are the new age of NeS, grandpa... and you're dead and in the ground... so you can't stop our planning, and our posting... you can't stop the birth of the teenage mutant ISBers.

*hides rope*

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2004-09-04, 8:07 PM #203
On thoughts concerning how I view NeS:

While I have not read it yet, there is a very high chance that the following play is a good read for all of us NeS writers:

Six Characters in Search of an Author

Along the same lines, while it sounds dramatic, I've viewed the NeS to be parallel in certain ways to life, or a stage. You know, the now-cliched "All the world's a stage, and we are but players in it." There are different implications from the original quote, but anywhos, I'll rant on about my way-too-deep and philosophical views on NeS some other time, perhaps in (another) essay...

Take both the linked play and my own comments with a grain of salt :p
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2004-09-04, 9:21 PM #204
That play sucks, and is a plot to RUIN all other plays. Don't read it.

/me spites Geb more

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2004-09-04, 11:00 PM #205
Holy ****! Highemps post goes along with EXACTLY what I and NobleOutlaw have planned, as well, it's EXACTLY what was going to be in CoolMatty's note. This is absolutelly TOO good to be true. <3 Highemp, you make me ovulate.

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2004-09-04, 11:38 PM #206
/me dances to Highemp's tune

This is all way too good. Heh. everything fits for compelelty unknown reasons. woo! (and most of you don't know the half of it at all. all shall be revealed, however. wee!)
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2004-09-06, 2:56 AM #207
Well, as my psot says, that was the end of the beginning. just a few things to refernce: the 'recent even't i said happened in the dreamworld is up to you, you can have it be whatever you wan, and it doesn't even have to be the same for everyone, but something did happen to eveyone. secondly, a picture of Mayaal! i may have one for Bhac eventually, but seeing as i suck at paint and lost photoshop in my reformat i'll either have to wait till someone else wants to do it (*coughkrigcough*) or until i get photoshop again adn i can try and fiddle around in there.
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2004-09-06, 2:46 PM #208
I rock at MSPaint, and Geb sucks at everything.
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2004-09-07, 7:56 AM #209
BAD TLTE! Read posts!
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2004-09-08, 5:35 AM #210
I can do bhac if I can get a more detailed description of how he looks like. That is, if Krig isn't already doing it. He's 10x better than I am as an artist.
2004-09-08, 9:08 AM #211
Would you try a Mayaal, too? Note his haircut isn't level at the ends. It's long in the front and rounds up and then back down to the other side. (Did that makes sense?)
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2004-09-09, 5:11 AM #212
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
BAD TLTE! Read posts!


BAD kIRBY! Write comprehensible ones! :p
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2004-09-09, 11:24 AM #213
I'll take a whack at it. Anything else specific about his look I should know?
2004-09-11, 1:14 AM #214
People kept talking about me doing things, so I did them.

Well, ok, one of them. Bhac.
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2004-09-11, 11:49 AM #215
/me tosses CM's drawling in the trash.

That's a keeper

(sorry CM :p)
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2004-09-12, 5:19 AM #216
You know, we* really should get around to drawing TLTE one day. He's sort of....hmm, how to describe him...like Liam Neeson in the spy gear described in the "ISB Character Sheets" thread. And with the Russian cool, of course.

*Krig
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2004-09-12, 9:14 AM #217
YOU SUCK KRIG! I HAD IT HALFWAY DONE AND NOW... IT SUCKS!!!

/me commits seppeku in a corner.

;)
2004-09-12, 10:34 AM #218
OK, Mayaal is basically a 7 foot tall Gandalf looking character. Consider a white version of neo's trench, with it being labcoat tight at the top, and all flowy an wavy at the bottom. He's got very well kept, neck legnth hair, but it cuts up at an angle, and then wraps around the head. I really don't know how to explain that. He's got a slightly shaggy white beard, but again, it's all white, and well kept. His skin is a light pink, close to normal skin, but just slightly off. He's got yoda-fingers, with deep pink fingernails. There are some deep pink slashes under his chin, and whatever other simple face design you can think up. He's also got wings, but more like transparent flowing cloth, all ripped up and pieces flowing off and disapearing. His staff is strait and clean white. His gun is remnant of a pistol, but has more of a cannon look to it, as if a cannon were mounted for the barel of a 6 shooter.

Also, you could give him Morpheous-esque glasses, but clear lenses. And don't forget, he's muscular in an old-man who still works out way. He may be spindly, and thin, but he's got a few defined curves in the arms and chest.

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2004-09-14, 3:07 AM #219
CM - I wanna see your version of Bhac. I always love seeing how two different people depict the same character from a work of literature (er, such as it is in this case). It reflects upon how well the author described that character (and also upon the reader's comprehension skills ;) ).
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2004-09-17, 11:41 PM #220
FYI

Project: Blank Character

In a bold step I've decided to give us a character driven character. Yes, I know, we have enough characters already, why am I burdening us with another?

Because we need it.

So far, all our characters have been primarily based on what the creator of that character has wanted for it. This time, the character will be the fresh slate for all of us. Hence why it has no name, gender, propensities. Also why it was necessary to create it from the others. As the characters are the essence of the NeS, the NeS is the essence of this character.

So, we now have a character driven story containing a character driven character.

May God have mercy on my soul.

~Ante

PS. The character itself will not be able to substantiate until it gets out of the Dreamstate, so the end of the Dreamstate Arc will mark its "birth".
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2004-09-18, 12:39 AM #221
Like I said in the #NeS channel, the idea of breaking away from the writers reminds me a lot of an RP I'm playing on the GamingGuardians forum called "Punishment" though this obviously has an NeS twist to it. What I'm trying to figure out is how the Blank Character will develop. While I wholly believe there is a certain quality of free-will in our current characters that we as writers can not fully control but seem to merely give light to at times, it would seem to be out of our capability to have a character-based character... would it be first-come first-serve on what gender, height, etc. the Blank Character is, or would it have some unique property so as the Blank Character could make such drastic changes between sexes or races or personality per post, like some shape-shifter?

I think it might have to stay in its jar for now ;) And Antestarr might want to figure out how to evade the writers' control, as even disguising his identity leaves one writer who knows his identity...

And in case you didn't already know all, the update section is updated, sans Zania = Antestarr. I figure I'll leave that one for a few posts before I change it. Assuming anyone uses the update section for reference... ;)

NEW NOTE: Krig just pointed out that there's a strong parallel between Desmond's trait-stealing in the LXG ripoff and Zania's/Ante's trait-stealing in the Dreamstate. Most interesting... one of these days we'll figure out what to do with that flashback, and Mustang, and a bunch of other stuff...
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2004-09-18, 5:48 AM #222
Regarding the Narrator's final lines in my last story post: I do not, and have not ever, watched an episode of that horrid television programme. I got those names off of a random website. If you were ever catch me watching that show, you have my full legal permission to shoot me in the head.

That is all.
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2004-09-19, 2:21 PM #223
BTW, I don't know what Noble has in store, but Mayaal is free for all and anyone to use, as long as he keeps a completelly 'all knowing' and 'for the good of the story' persona. Oh, and of course, he can't really die, not that he'd kill anyone, either.

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2004-09-19, 6:56 PM #224
rules for Mayaal aply to Bhac. Do whatever you want with him (or TLTE(b), as it is at the moment). I don't have any plans, so whatever you want to happen is fine.
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2004-09-20, 4:25 PM #225
Although the only people who will probably be interested to read this have been e-mailed it already, Gebohq wanted me to post this here, so here it is. it explains a hell of alot about Bhac and Mayaal and what happened during those few posts.


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The Metaphysics of the NeW by Bhac Ssylan

Origins of the NeW

To start off, the NeW was created as a result of the actions of the Eep and the Hand of the Nes, JKtW. As explained by the lkady, one becomes two, two becomes one, and from three come none. In simpler terms, From the soul and purpose of JKtW, to protect the NeS, came two: Myself and Mayaal. From two became one: the powers of the EEP and JKtW combined to form the NeW, and the two who are simply split forms of the one. And, the three beings, the Eep, JKtW, and Qwerty, came together to form Bhac and Mayaal: the two are oppoistes, and canel each other out: three become none. The Two of us shall now fight fo eternity, as befits our identifties as total opposites. However, if necessary, we will conbine forces to fight a foe of the NeS itself, such as anouther like the Eep. however, evn this will not be truely total compliance, we may divert most of our forces against anoutehr enemy, but our very natures conmpel us to fight.

Our abilities

With the power of the Eep and JKtW, and the bodies of Qwerty and JKtW, there came the two beings, myself, Bhac, and Mayaal. The power of the Eep was destroyed by JKtW when he sacrificed himself, but the Eep's destruction, conversely, 'unlocked' the power of the NeS. The two of us now contrl the entirety of the power of the NeS. Unlike JKtW, we are no restriced by what we need to know, or the power we need to fight with. Since we are opposite, and therefore concel each otehr out, there is no need for the NeS to protect itself with such measures, and we have full control. Our powers, though fully able to control the nes, are not capable of overcoming each other to any degree, and so we will always fight, as even if one of us were to gain an upper hand, the other would gain one, as well, and so we will always remain in balance. Even as i write this, and fully realize the futility of my actions, i know i will not bable to stop fighting, as my contrast to JktW is and always will be complete, and even as we protect the nes by our action,s we cannot stand to live with the other existing without contest.

Leet

The land of Leet, or, as it is more conventionally known, 1337, has undergone massive changes because of the sacrifice of JKtW. As his being was split, so was his 1337, his personal dimention. The dimention itself as spilt into many pieces and have sicne coaleced in the higher dimention as a sort of chess board, which i will explain later. The now two parts of Nes, when one enters them, are whole, however, or at least seem so. the dimention itself is very odd, and relies on physics no normal for the NeS dimention, and so the infinite space percieved when one is in it may only be that of a single shard. I myself still do not fully understand this, and perhaps never will. The Kirbies seemed to, being a product of 1337, however thier time is now passed.

The Chessboard

The 'chessboard' refers to the new configuration of 1337 as observed from the higher dimention. This realm is, for the moemnt, only accessable to Mayaal and Bhac, and only in an abstract sence. The configuration of 1337 also has effects on the NeS itself, and movement on this 'chessboard' will ultimately change events in the NeS, which is anouther factet of our power. The two figures observed on either side of the board are our abstract representations, even these word are not quite capable of showing how we exist in that dimention. however, it is not important that you know at this juncture.

The relationship of Mayaal and Bhac

The two of us are, as has been somewhat explained so far, inextricably linked. the relationshbip goes farther then simply the relationship between Good and Evil, however. As one way have noticed, some of our features are very similar, adn many are linked to JKtW and Qwerty, and that is exactly why our present forms look as they do, for the most part. The deaths of JKtW and Qwerty in the destruction of the Eep's power caused the two to be the main sources of the beings we now are. Evidence of this can be seen in my patched skin, combined from the kirby skin of JKtW and the more conventioanl skin of Qwerty. Mayaal's entire human form, indeed, is a result of Qwerty, though he still retains some of his kirby heritage, such as his too-pink skin and three-fingered hands. Our hiar as well has taken on features of each otehr, Mayaal's hair is short as a result of Qwerty's influence, but straigh, because of JKtW, while i have long hair from JKtW, and wild because of Qwerty. Other such things can be seen by close observers, but i will not elaborate any farther on phsyical charactersticts.

Good and Evil incarnate

As well as the physcial characteristics bestowed on us by our 'fathers', there are also several that came about as a result of our respective sides of the spectrum. Again, i will only point out a few. Firstly, and most noticably, is our eyes. Mayaal's are covered, his eyes closed to the inherant evil of the world. He sees Good, and looks into the hearts of all. I have been cursed with my eyes forever to remain open, however, too look at this world in all its terrible glory. I see all, and miss nothing to sleep or other frailties of mortals. Also, the other chracteristic of eitehr of us that displays this incarnation is in our weapons. Not the staves, they are simply symbols, though we may use them to fight if we wish. Mayaals weapon is a revolver, of a sort. It fires tears of purity, those shed by the good for all, those shed by the good who do what they must even when it means giving up what they love. Mine is blood, the corruption of the body, evil when spilled in hate.

The Balance

Along with our powers that have come about through the incarnation of good and evil in our forms comes also the Balance. More specifically, the balance of good and evil. This balance, which is and must be always maintained, contributes to the NeW and our immortality. The balance of good and evil reaches its ultimate form in Mayaal and myself, though do not take that was meaning we are the absolute repositry of this balance, i will talk of that later. With the powers of the NeS imbued on us, and our own mechanizations of the character's relationships when we feel it nencessary, we maintain the Balance, and will continue to do so always. The fact that we maintain this balance provides us with the immortality necessary to do so. Because of the powers of the NeS which we wield, we are perhaps the only things capable of destorying each other, and because we have knowlage of the balance we keep, we will not destroy each other, and because of the balance of our powers, even that is not possible. We are the ying and the yang, the dragon and the sheep. If one of us were to exist uncontested, it would be the end of the story, the scale would tip to an infinite amount. But, as long as we continue to exist as one, as it will be for all time, the story continues.

Part II: Powers of the NeS

This part is not whole in the least, as the NeS is as limetless as the imagination, and so what Mayaal and I can do with it is also unlimited. However, this is a short list of some of the abilities the two of us now have.

Unbound

What is meant by 'Unbound' is that Mayaal and myself are no longer limited to any single one or few dimensions. We can travel throught any at will, and even thorugh time. Even the Writer's realm is open to us, if we so wish to visit it. This travel takes very little toll on us, for in a way we exist in all dimentions already. We need only to make ourselves exist a bit more specifically.

Shapechanging

Mayaal and myself, though we choose to exist in the forms we currently inhabit, can exist in any form we choose. Some of our original form stays in every transformation, however, such as my hands. No matter how i may try, as long as i stay as TLTE, they will remain as they are. What part of me is displyed will change from time to time, and will depend also on what shape i take (for example, if i were to take the form of a tiger, say, i would not still have human hands. some other part of me would be displayed, like my hair, perhaps).

Pause

AS the name suggests, we have the ability to halt the NeS at will. We have both already displyed this ability, though the other heroes have not and, indeed, cannot notice. This takes much of our power, however, especially in the current times when events are progressing so rapidly. The NeS is not an easy thing to halt, and we will only use this power on occation. The two of us can break free of the other's use of this ability, sometimes, however it requires extream concentration on the part of the 'paused' one to notice when it happens. if they do not recognise the presence of the other, they have no chance of breaking the spell.

This is all of this situation that i will disclose in this document. Other facts may become apparent as events develop, but i shall leave them to be disovered by other minds.
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2004-09-23, 8:47 PM #226
For anyone who read the earlier pages of NeS (around pages 8-18, I forget where in particular), this article is awesome:

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040923_985.html

And for posterity's sake, here's the text:

Quote:
Mo. Man Legally Changes His Name to 'They'

Missouri Man Legally Changes His Name to 'They' With No Surname

The Associated Press

BRANSON, Mo. Sept. 23, 2004 — A Branson man has put a face to the anonymous references people often make to "they" by changing his name to just that: "They."

The former Andrew Wilson, a 43-year-old self-employed inventor, was granted legal permission last week by a circuit judge to change his name.

It's just They, no surname.

He also has changed his driver's license to reflect his new name.

They said he did it for humor to address the common reference to "they."

"'They do this,' or 'They're to blame for that.' Who is this 'they' everyone talks about? 'They' accomplish such great things. Somebody had to take responsibility," he said.

Now, his friends are getting used to his new name.

"They call up and say, 'Is They there?'"

He acknowledged the name could drive grammarians crazy.

"Not only is he making a statement about his name, but he's messing with the entire English language," friend Craig Erickson said.

They holds 14 patents including Ground-Effect lighting, used to create a neon glow beneath vehicles and patented in 1987.

His newest product is "Shades Eyewear," which have a built-in visor over each sunglass lens. The visors protect the eyes from glare without having to wear a hat, he said.
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2004-09-24, 9:32 PM #227
THAT'S GOLD!

By the way, I demand that I am drawn...
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2004-09-29, 1:01 AM #228
I just wanted to say, "WOOHOO! TRACER RETURNS!" I was reviewing TLTE's story-arc recently, through the entirety of NeS, and this guy is consistently laugh-out-loud funny, which is tough for any web-based story. Also, he wins further points for writing a lot for other characters, which gives them their own lives outside of what their creators envisage. He says he doesn't have time for NeS anymore, but I hope he reconsiders...

Tracer, I salute you!
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2004-09-29, 8:06 AM #229
Seconded.

Though I perfectly understand the time issue. I'm spending too much time with NeS and not enough with things like "school" myself.

Quote:
Originally posted by Tracer:
(NSP: So there you go. But what the hell, Qwerty's dead now? I remember when *I* killed Qwerty and people were like "oh no, you can't kill Qwerty!" but now everybody's killing Qwerty. wtf)


Well not everyone, mostly just Noble. And there's nothing about killing your own character... but yeah, that is pretty amusing :)
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2004-09-29, 12:05 PM #230
I think i'm allowed to kill my own character...
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2004-09-29, 2:23 PM #231
Of course. It was just amusing in the context provided by Tracer, is all.
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2004-09-29, 11:27 PM #232
Don't worry, Noble, I was only joking. Just thought it was kind of funny that he's dead now.

Anyways, that post was just kind of to get back into writing mode...I'll hopefully be doing some stuff that actually goes somewhere soon. But feel free to write whatever you want in the mean time (as you probably know, I'm all for everybody writing their current ideas and trying to weave them all together as opposed to having a bunch of writers pussyfooting around one another).

And I'd also like to say that it makes me feel *really* good when people post saying how they enjoy my writing. There's not too much of that in NeS compared to the volume of the story (which is good, because then every other post would be like "oh, great work!" "super work!" "Yes, excellent!"), but it's nice when it happens.
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2004-10-05, 12:04 AM #233
I would just like to address the misconception that everyone seems to have about Viking longships. They do not have a "below deck". They are basically really wide giant canoes with a sail attatched in the middle and shields on the sides. No below decks. There might be a shelter or something constructed in the bow or aft for storage or something, but the floor is basically the hull.

It's ok for now, as this is the Dreamstate and things tend to be a little un-logical. This is just for future reference.

Viking ships do not have a "below deck".

That is all.
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2004-10-05, 3:41 PM #234
I realized that Krig, but for me to separate the crew effectively, we needed a below deck. Standing at either end of the ship was none-too-effective. I guess you can call it the UberViking ship.
2004-10-05, 4:44 PM #235
That's fine. It's the Dreamstate, after all, things are malleable. It's just that I've encountered this problem before in other stories, despite my best efforts at educating the masses. Silly masses.
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2004-10-08, 10:58 PM #236
Teehee.
2004-10-13, 4:11 PM #237
Nice picture, again.

I don't know who stickified the NeS and NeSquared threads, but I hope they don't do it again. I've kept them unstickified with a reason -- NeSquared tends to stay more active IMO if I see it fall down into inactivity. As for the original NeS thread... well, actually, what do you all think? I'm not a fan of sticky-ing story threads simply because they should be read... I mean, should NeS be the only one then? What of Saga of the 3rd War, The Shadows of Darkness, The Eternal War, then what others? But maybe you all have some better arguments for sticky-ing threads...
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2004-10-13, 4:31 PM #238
I stickied them because NeS is done sort of and because I was tired of fishing around for the NeSquared when I wanted to read it or possibly make a post. :p Doesn't really matter, I guess...
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2004-10-13, 6:12 PM #239
Ah, the infamous ellipses, or as I like to call them, the dot-dot-dot's.

I'm still considering putting the sticky back on the original NeS, but I'd like to hear other opinions first. As for NeSquared, I've been a firm believer in the dust method. If it's been collecting dust, it falls off, and when it falls off, I think "ack, it needs some lovin' before it falls into scarier depths." Or something like that anyway. But if there be others here who don't feel the same way, I'll sticky it back as well.

Right now though, I'm too tired to do much. I wouldn't be surprised if this post was all funny-looking when I read it later.
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2004-11-01, 7:16 PM #240
As I have mentioned on the other thread:

http://neslp.sorrowind.net

Takes you to the last post of NeSquared.
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