Um, guys, I think that we're inside a body.

When I first caught wind of the alt. right, it was when Milo Longnamopolis was on stage with Christina Hoff Sommers and some obnoxious Canadian punk, basically ****ting on feminism in reaction to Gamergate. Milo said: "feminism... is cancer".

But, it's not. What's weird, though, is that the correct metaphor is:

Feminism, Fascism = inFlammation (1)
Capitalism = Cancer (2)

What's quite strange is that after fudging the F on the RHS of equation (1), the first letters on both sides of equations (1) and (2) match up!

Is there a differential equation relating these terms, and is it the same in the category of societies as it is in the category of individual organisms? Some weird scale free properties playing out here, being helped along by suggestive metaphorical language.

(4chain is AIDS)

Twitter is HPV

Facebook is...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/on-safari-in-trumps-america/543288/

Pretty good article on the Third Way, and their resistance to accept the current American political scene.

Anyone have an idea why people like Clinton use such soft rhetoric? This is her on the tax bill:



Compare that to Sanders, who said



Other than the class warfare line, since Clinton doesn't believe in that. I mean, it's good she said something, but her takes always feel so soulless, how can anyone not be outraged?

Hey, Wookie, why aren't you outraged that you're being ****ed by your side?

What are we kidding, he's a conservative, and we all know conservatives are cowards who won't own up to their views.

tl;dr?

Centrists who think people would prefer to find a peaceable middle ground are wrong and are feeding themselves and higher-up Democrats with the same feel good centrist lies.

**** you Eversor!

Whata soyboy!

Is that a TRP thing? I think I missed that discussion in this thread.

The Posadists were right, we're going to have to treat capitalism with radiation.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/senate-opens-up-alaskas-arctic-national-wildlife-refuge-to-oil-drilling/

Also Republicans slipped arctic drilling into the tax bill!

Next they'll want to blow up the moon.

Alt-right meme, yeah.

Interesting. Watching this:



Which seems to take directly from this:



Not the first time I've suspected Cracked of "lifting" their stories.

No, a youtube comedy show isn't going to do hard-hitting investigative journalism.

Of course not, just feels a bit weak to basically copy the story from another person.

At least when they basically repeat news articles, they say what place they read it. Gives some credit for the original take.

Just checked the comments, and counted at least five other people questioning whether they lifted that bit from HBomberguy, asking them to credit him, so I don't feel alone.

I've never heard of this HBomberguy before, but he should finish that wall back there. Taping and mudding isn't hard and you only need maybe $20 in tools to start.

Naturally there would be. A simple thought experiment makes it clear: if a highwayman collects a tax every time a person crosses a bridge, does the economy become more productive?

Well, maybe it does if the highwayman is a Robin Hood who takes money that would otherwise be unproductive and spends it or shares it. But the answer is no, it probably even becomes less productive since the money is wasting time switching hands instead of going to active capital.



The natural response from the right is that, the money extracted through capital will work its way back into the economy. I.E., trickle-down economics.

Which is a bald-faced delusion in the face of the facts. The problem is, liberals don't have a response to the problem of trickle-down economics: people with excess money, who don't have to work, use that money to try and gain more capital. Their work becomes finding the best grifts to extract more from the functioning economy. What do the Democrats have to say about that? They target income inequality, but don't address the cause of inequality.



Well, certainly, and you don't have to descend into the depths of the LTV to claim that value is taken from workers. To capitalists, that value taken isn't even a problem, that's intrinsic to how capitalism works, you pay workers and make a profit, and you keep as much of that profit as you can. It's rent extracted by the artificial construct of property. Like, it's not a conspiracy, it's how things are supposed to work by the book.



Goddamn. If that isn't the truth.

He's an alright youtuber, likes to mock the alt-right.

Which brings me back to this, actually. Many of these "centrist" groups absolutely refuse to recognize income inequality as a product of a very obvious class war. Those two words are anathema to mainstream politics. In fact, I was curious so I did a little research, and outside of a few hysterical right-wing slanders, I can't seem to find any mention from Hillary Clinton or the DNC about class war. I can't even really find any support from her for Occupy Wall Street. It's really an empty void.

That's probably why Bernie enjoys so much popularity, despite being a weird, out there kind of guy. Because he ****ing says what we all know to be an elementary truth.

Cellular life is now the reward itself, not the organism you can build with it. Metabolism is how quickly you can replicate DNA, instead of how quickly you can repair stuff. Cancer cells (and neoliberals) behave the way they do because they literally perceive the passive growth of tumors as more productive than the labors of almost the entire rest of the body, because when you don’t understand the what apoptosis is anymore, that is literally the only way you can reason about it.

Note: cancer cells have also been known to crop up in the brain (the autopsy showed an orange growth).

The tumor is more productive than the heart, last year the tumor grew 13% while the heart only grew 0.1%. Clearly our economy needs more tumors and less hearts.

https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/so-much-for-the-growing-class-war/

Despite the ****ty attitude that the class war is on it's way out, they comically fail to note that Americans by and large view class conflict as being the most important source of conflict above race, immigration and gender. I couldn't find data past 2013 but hey.

So, if people by and large view class as the most important source of conflict, why do the Democrats skirt the topic?

Oh yeah, we all know, but there is an importance to verifying one's beliefs.

Why do you think they are always talking about "growing" their way out of every single political / economic problem imaginable?

I think that a lot of Democrats are still centrists, and would genuinely consider throwing their lot in with the right if the party went too far left. Something about that "socialist shaped hole" in our heads.

Which is exactly the belief I'm responding to: wealth is really stuff. You can't repay the workers for the stuff you've taken unless you, too, work. Trickle-down economics only makes sense when you believe the goal of an economy is to move dollars around instead of making stuff. But that isn't the goal of an economy, it's a fictionalized version of economics that the rich invented to obfuscate the basic fact that they're parasites.

"This tax bill is legislation you would only back if you think America is finished and the only thing left to do is loot what you can."

I think this is honestly pretty apt. I genuinely think many of the wealthy have given up hope on America economically, and are transitioning into reckless plunder mode.

http://news.berkeley.edu/2011/07/26/are-cancers-newly-evolved-species/

You know, I've been thinking about this **** and it's pretty baffling proof that venture capital is ****ed. I mean:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-10-03/silicon-valley-s-next-target-for-disruption-is-socks

I mean, people did crowdfund Solar Roadways of all things, but I don't think anybody could raise 100 million for techno-socks without appealing to the whims of wealthy techno-dick investor idiots.

Nah, I think it's an accident. It's comforting to think there's a plan here, even an evil one, but I don't think there is one. I think the rich all recognize that there's a problem brewing, but they're each too selfish and stupid to unilaterally do anything about it. They're all waiting for the other rich people to act first, so they can seize whatever money gets left on the table. I call it guillotine chicken.

How bad is this in mainstream economics? From what I can tell, as long as you stay away from mises.org or other crank webpages, many economists recognize this sort of thing. Not sure why they don't speak louder about the consequences of this stuff, though.

Richard von Mises was a pretty cool guy.

Also, they should have named that organization the Rothbard Institute.

Do they really? How is this not a softball, I remember Jon`C savaging mainstream economic thought.

Whatever it should be named, I'd shoot the server rack with a shotgun.

JKJK I love free speech.

From what I can tell, mainstream economics is not really supportive of trickle-down theory at all.