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Inauguration Day, Inauguration Hooooooraaay!
2018-02-08, 6:52 PM #7121
wats wrong with ethereum you know Vitalik is going to save us, how could it not be that one?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2018-02-08, 9:49 PM #7122
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
Isn't that the same guy that Jon`C posted a video of where he advocated that Amazon, Google et al be broken up? Is he worth following?


Yup. I spent an afternoon watching his stuff shortly after Jon posted that video. Enjoyed it, but I haven't watched more since then.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-08, 11:21 PM #7123
Actually I found the discussion in the interview I linked to kind of off-putting. They were complimenting Jeff Bezos on how buff he is. Feels kind of dirty to have that kind of adulation for somebody you've only met or been somewhat close to because of his wealth and power. (Similarly I never cared for the cult of personality around Steve Jobs.)

It reminds me of how interviewers like Charlie Rose cozy up to their guests. It was weird listening to the CEO of Starbucks talk about his life story as if we're all supposed to be his best friend after hearing it all.

Also, Jeff Bezos' laugh is super creepy.
2018-02-09, 3:35 AM #7124
Originally posted by Spook:
wats wrong with ethereum you know Vitalik is going to save us, how could it not be that one?


Why would Ethereum be better than a US government issued cryptocurrency? Or, really, more importantly, and much more relevant, how could Ethereum compete with the US government, if it made the US dollar a cryptocurrency? The government could create a monopoly on cryptocurrencies very quickly if it wanted to -- and that's without straight up outlawing Bitcoin and Ethereum, which it could also do.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-09, 6:01 AM #7125
Is there anybody that's into cryptocurrencies that isn't ****ing insufferable?
nope.
2018-02-09, 6:06 AM #7126
Originally posted by Baconfish:
Is there anybody that's into cryptocurrencies that isn't ****ing insufferable?


Sure, a few. They're usually pretty quiet about it.
2018-02-09, 6:07 AM #7127
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-services-exclusive/exclusive-trump-administration-may-target-immigrants-who-use-food-aid-other-benefits-idUSKBN1FS2ZK

Not an ethnostate.
2018-02-09, 6:12 AM #7128
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
Actually I found the discussion in the interview I linked to kind of off-putting. They were complimenting Jeff Bezos on how buff he is. Feels kind of dirty to have that kind of adulation for somebody you've only met or been somewhat close to because of his wealth and power. (Similarly I never cared for the cult of personality around Steve Jobs.)

It reminds me of how interviewers like Charlie Rose cozy up to their guests. It was weird listening to the CEO of Starbucks talk about his life story as if we're all supposed to be his best friend after hearing it all.

Also, Jeff Bezos' laugh is super creepy.


Yeah, I can find him off-putting too. I'm not a fan of how he talks. He can be preachy, almost like Keith Olbermann. And elsewhere there's plenty of locker room talk and crude sex jokes that simply aren't very funny. Still, some of the information and the insights are useful.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-09, 6:14 AM #7129
Originally posted by Eversor:
Why would Ethereum be better than a US government issued cryptocurrency? Or, really, more importantly, and much more relevant, how could Ethereum compete with the US government, if it made the US dollar a cryptocurrency? The government could create a monopoly on cryptocurrencies very quickly if it wanted to -- and that's without straight up outlawing Bitcoin and Ethereum, which it could also do.


If you're actually asking me, I am not interested in using Ethereum as a cryptocurrency, really. Like I keep saying, I am hoping their attempt at the whole web 3 thing gets far enough that I can put cartoons on it. I guess I will be collecting money, but it won't be in ether or bitcoin lmao
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2018-02-09, 6:18 AM #7130


I find the term ethnostate to be so, so very unhelpful.

The policies described here seems to get at the heart of the anxiety about immigration. As in, when people complain about immigration, the reason many give is that immigrants benefit from social services that they shouldn't be entitled to because they aren't citizens, or don't pay income taxes. These policies -- whether fair or right, or not, and whether or not they'll be effective -- are evidently designed to address that concern.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-09, 6:21 AM #7131
Originally posted by Spook:
If you're actually asking me, I am not interested in using Ethereum as a cryptocurrency, really. Like I keep saying, I am hoping their attempt at the whole web 3 thing gets far enough that I can put cartoons on it. I guess I will be collecting money, but it won't be in ether or bitcoin lmao


Yeah, I am asking. The Ethereum network is pretty flexible, right? Can Dapps built on the network facilitate transactions with tokens aside from Ether? That'd help ensure that the infrastructure was useful even if the US government (or other governments) created its own cryptocurrency.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-09, 8:22 AM #7132
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/09/california-police-white-supremacists-counter-protest

Why do people defend the police?
2018-02-09, 8:46 AM #7133
Originally posted by Eversor:
Yeah, I am asking. The Ethereum network is pretty flexible, right? Can Dapps built on the network facilitate transactions with tokens aside from Ether? That'd help ensure that the infrastructure was useful even if the US government (or other governments) created its own cryptocurrency.


Well the nerds are excited about it hosting a turing complete VM, which they say is infinitely flexible. I say its too slow for that, which is probably a feature.

Ether is probably only necessary to secure the network/pay for gas to run code in the vision of the designers, and they seem to be counting on projects with stable tokens like DigixDAO and MakerDAO to provide some sort of stable transactional currency using Ethereum.

As of right now? You can do transactions with tokens, but everything is so speculative that value is all over the place, even if you were using 'store of value' bitcoin. Both Digix and Maker have hit milestones recently, but I am too busy to be following any of this too closely right now to know where they are really at.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2018-02-09, 3:06 PM #7134
Originally posted by Eversor:
Yeah, I can find him off-putting too. I'm not a fan of how he talks. He can be preachy, almost like Keith Olbermann. And elsewhere there's plenty of locker room talk and crude sex jokes that simply aren't very funny. Still, some of the information and the insights are useful.


Yes, I noticed the 'locker room talk' too! Paul Graham never warned us about Revenge of the Jocks.
2018-02-09, 3:16 PM #7135
So what's with old guys like Donald Trump complaining about being / not being Ivanka's father on account of her having nice legs?

[quote=Quincy Jones]
Interviewer: What’s stirred everything up? Is it all about Trumpism?

It’s Trump and uneducated rednecks. Trump is just telling them what they want to hear. I used to hang out with him. He’s a crazy ************. Limited mentally — a megalomaniac, narcissistic. I can’t stand him. I used to date Ivanka, you know.

Interviewer: Wait, really?

Yes, sir. Twelve years ago. Tommy Hilfiger, who was working with my daughter Kidada, said, “Ivanka wants to have dinner with you.” I said, “No problem. She’s a fine ************.” She had the most beautiful legs I ever saw in my life. Wrong father, though.
[/quote]
2018-02-09, 3:51 PM #7136
Originally posted by Baconfish:
Is there anybody that's into cryptocurrencies that isn't ****ing insufferable?


No, we are all like this.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2018-02-09, 3:57 PM #7137
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
Yes, I noticed the 'locker room talk' too! Paul Graham never warned us about Revenge of the Jocks.


He must assume that his audience is primarily male, which is fair, since his audience is probably mostly tech people. Still, pretty gross that he's trying to relate bro-to-bro by talking about how much porn he watches.

Or maybe I'm overestimating how prude women are.

Or maybe I'm prude!!
former entrepreneur
2018-02-09, 4:41 PM #7138
We're all prudes now.
2018-02-09, 8:28 PM #7139
https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/962134513341157384

What the **** I'm laughing so hard
2018-02-09, 8:42 PM #7140
"If the Star Wars kid was raised by Jefferson Davis"
2018-02-09, 8:43 PM #7141
Also... I'm not sure if that wasn't meant as a joke. It looks like a parody, but I can also see it being the serious product of extreme boredom by a rather tasteless pleb.
2018-02-09, 8:53 PM #7142
Ok wtf, so the guy is not only serious, but (according to that Twitter thread), drove to a house along with four white dudes in a truck full of firearms and a machete in order to threaten the homeowner.
2018-02-10, 12:38 AM #7143
https://twitter.com/tetherprinter?lang=en

click even though i've posted it before
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 12:58 AM #7144
What was it?
2018-02-10, 1:31 AM #7145
A twitter account that kept track of when new Tether is printed
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 4:29 AM #7146
Because we were talking about the Jordan Peterson and campus politics a little while ago, here's a piece by Andrew Sullivan:

Quote:
When elite universities shift their entire worldview away from liberal education as we have long known it toward the imperatives of an identity-based “social justice” movement, the broader culture is in danger of drifting away from liberal democracy as well. If elites believe that the core truth of our society is a system of interlocking and oppressive power structures based around immutable characteristics like race or sex or sexual orientation, then sooner rather than later, this will be reflected in our culture at large. What matters most of all in these colleges — your membership in a group that is embedded in a hierarchy of oppression — will soon enough be what matters in the society as a whole.

And, sure enough, the whole concept of an individual who exists apart from group identity is slipping from the discourse. The idea of individual merit — as opposed to various forms of unearned “privilege” — is increasingly suspect. The Enlightenment principles that formed the bedrock of the American experiment — untrammeled free speech, due process, individual (rather than group) rights — are now routinely understood as mere masks for “white male” power, code words for the oppression of women and nonwhites. Any differences in outcome for various groups must always be a function of “hate,” rather than a function of nature or choice or freedom or individual agency. And anyone who questions these assertions is obviously a white supremacist himself.


Polarization has made this worse — because on the left, moderation now seems like a surrender to white nationalism, and because on the right, white identity politics has overwhelmed moderate conservatism.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/we-all-live-on-campus-now.html
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 5:40 AM #7147
Originally posted by Reid:


So, I wish I had been a more conscientious person before laughing at that. Not long after posting, I read this about him and found it frankly kind of depressing. When people talk about "white supremacy" outside of the context of literal race supremacy, this is the kind of **** they refer to. The sort of bullying leading to internalized self-hate. And it's quite obviously had its toll on this guy.

A testament to the toxic aspects of Texan white pride culture, in a really exaggerated form.
2018-02-10, 6:35 AM #7148
Originally posted by Eversor:
Because we were talking about the Jordan Peterson and campus politics a little while ago, here's a piece by Andrew Sullivan:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/we-all-live-on-campus-now.html


Alright, much of this is really banal by this point, but I guess I'll respond to the article.

Quote:
And, sure enough, the whole concept of an individual who exists apart from group identity is slipping from the discourse. The idea of individual merit — as opposed to various forms of unearned “privilege” — is increasingly suspect.


This is poor reasoning. Clearly people have individual agency. Clearly people have some definition from their group. The point is where it begins and where it ends. This hysterical whining that academic elites define people only by their privilege is just a radical oversimplification to the point of being almost a pure error. And that doesn't mean all of the discussion in that vein is good or healthy, but Christ, this **** sounds much more like an attempt to shut people up for trying to expose power dynamics than it is any real argument about whether the analysis itself is sound.

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The Enlightenment principles that formed the bedrock of the American experiment — untrammeled free speech, due process, individual (rather than group) rights


[citation needed]

Quote:
are now routinely understood as mere masks for “white male” power, code words for the oppression of women and nonwhites.


This is, again, bull****. Go into any history department and ask about this. Seriously, try it.

Even from what I can tell, the statement they should be responding to is in context, ideas like free speech or individual rights can be used to justify immoral, unethical or otherwise racist things, and that this describes how these ideas are used in politics today far better than a true academic understanding. That would be a harder position to argue against, and it's the one serious scholars would be more likely to agree with, so again, in debate club nerd terms, this is a huge strawman.

It does exactly what Ben Shapiro does, and why he's such a devious little ****head: you'll notice Ben Shapiro only goes on college campuses to talk **** on undergraduates, but he won't enter a public forum with an actual professor of psychology who would **** up and down on his interpretation of psychological studies. Because all the right has to offer against academia is arguments against bad readings of the **** people actually want to say, or to pick on people who are intellectually undeveloped.

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Any differences in outcome for various groups must always be a function of “hate,” rather than a function of nature or choice or freedom or individual agency.


The idea here is literally contradictory. You can't do individual analysis on an entire group. The idea he's trying to sneak in is basically that "black people as a group fail because they all individually make bad choices".

Guess what, that's really ****ing bad sociology, so ****ing bad it's actually not even sociology. It's just, again, conservatives trying to dismiss the topic without a real argument.

Quote:
Polarization has made this worse — because on the left, moderation now seems like a surrender to white nationalism


The left is drastically more moderate than the right.

Quote:
Cultural Marxists fear dissent because they believe it can do harm to others’ feelings and help sustain existing identity-based power structures.


Cultural Marxists literally don't exist. It's literally an extension of Nazi complaints about arts and academia funneled back into mainstream culture through 4chan ****posting. This is a literal neo-Nazi defense of their imagined pseudo-history and pseudo-culture against people who dissent.

Quote:
Yes, this is not about the First Amendment. The government is not preventing anyone from speaking. But it is about the spirit of the First Amendment.


I.E. it's about how I feel the first amendment should be, not what it actually is.

Quote:
If voicing an “incorrect” opinion can end your career, or mark you for instant social ostracism, you tend to keep quiet. This silence on any controversial social issue is endemic on college campuses, but it’s now everywhere.


None of this is true. People losing academic posts for having opinions is nearly unheard of. This is pure hysteria.

Quote:
This is compounded by the idea that only a member of a minority group can speak about racism or homophobia


Nope. Again, another strawman position. What they actually say is "a group of men talking to a woman about her own problems isn't feminism" and the equivalent. In other words, listen to what other people have to say. Not that straight white men can't speak competently or correctly on these topics.

Quote:
And that’s why left-feminists are not just interested in exposing workplace abuse or punishing sex crimes, but in policing even consensual sex for any hint of patriarchy’s omnipresent threat.


Nope, consensual sex is easy to understand and define for most people. The problem is, there are psychos who want to push the boundaries and do other devious acts within the strict rules but with obvious malicious intent. It's actually hard to come up with a system of rules that will perfectly limit unwanted behavior, and people are trying to figure that out. But for anyone who's a normal person with a normal sex life, consent is really, really straightforward.

Quote:
There’s a reason that totalitarian states will strip prisoners of their clothing. Left-feminists delight in doing this metaphorically to targeted men


Holy ****ing **** dude, do you actually take this stuff seriously, Eversor?

Quote:
Objective truth? Ha! The culture is now saturated with the concept of “your own truth” — based usually on your experience of race and gender.


I remember seeing a redpill post once about how all women are "solipsists". I'm getting a bunch of similar vibes from this article.

Quote:
Books are censored in advance by sensitivity readers to conform with “social justice” protocols.


I checked the article they linked, and the first thing they mention is a book where a woman was criticized for a thing she wrote. That's it, the publisher published the book, she had a dialogue with people, nothing happened.

WAO SO CRAZY HOW THE LEFT WANTS TO CENSOR ALL BOOKS! 1984 ORWELL WAS RIGHT!

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Marxism with a patina of liberalism on top is still Marxism — and it’s as hostile to the idea of a free society as white nationalism is.


Marxism is literally just a system of thought to analyze society. The elevation of it to a massive conspiracy theory, an intellectual force trying to subvert everything - is hysteria. In reality there's people who are dissatisfied, so they reach out to various intellectual frameworks to understand their dissatisfaction, and Marxism is one of those.

Though I highly, highly, highly, highly, super highly doubt that any of the people this **** writer is complaining about actually know any Marx.

Quote:
So if you wonder why our discourse is now so freighted with fear, why so many choose silence as the path of least resistance, or why the core concepts of a liberal society


Again, a reactionary myth. Do these *******s really think people spoke unabashedly 20, 30 years ago? How about 50 years during the civil rights era, do they think that the United States was really more free speech friendly then? This pseudo-history they invent, a mythologizing of the past as some golden era, is just bull****, a manufactured lie to try and create modern political leverage.

Quote:
We used to call this bigotry. Now we call it being woke. You see: We are all on campus now.


I don't see that, what I see is a massive stinking pile of hysterical bull****.
2018-02-10, 6:51 AM #7149
Originally posted by Reid:
Holy ****ing **** dude, do you actually take this stuff seriously, Eversor?


Heh, apparently not as seriously as you do.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 6:55 AM #7150
So for some reason as I was cleaning up I listened to some Jordan Peterson videos. My takeaway was this: the only profound things he says are things he ripped off from Heidegger/Nietzsche, and misrepresents and misunderstands them (he basically says Heidegger's world view will lead one away from totalitarianism, but Heidegger was a committed Nazi and antisemite). When he's not recycling these other, much better thinkers (with a dose of bull**** evopsych), he's just repeating really basic conservative political beliefs in a really vacuous way.

I get why people like him: he steals good insights and appeals to the political views of a demographic, so they latch onto him because he confirms rather than confronts their political views (which Nietzsche would look poorly on), and then gives them a dose of postmodern existentialist philosophy. I say postmodern because JP is super obviously highly influenced by postmodern thought, I think he just doesn't realize it.
2018-02-10, 6:56 AM #7151
Originally posted by Eversor:
Heh, apparently not as seriously as you do.


That article was a concentration of views I very much disagreed with, so yeah, it got me a bit riled :/
2018-02-10, 7:24 AM #7152
Originally posted by Reid:
That article was a concentration of views I very much disagreed with, so yeah, it got me a bit riled :/


Word. Yeah I disagree with some of your comments. Busy now, but hopefully I can get to some of them soon.

Originally posted by Reid:
So for some reason as I was cleaning up I listened to some Jordan Peterson videos. My takeaway was this: the only profound things he says are things he ripped off from Heidegger/Nietzsche, and misrepresents and misunderstands them (he basically says Heidegger's world view will lead one away from totalitarianism, but Heidegger was a committed Nazi and antisemite). When he's not recycling these other, much better thinkers (with a dose of bull**** evopsych), he's just repeating really basic conservative political beliefs in a really vacuous way.

I get why people like him: he steals good insights and appeals to the political views of a demographic, so they latch onto him because he confirms rather than confronts their political views (which Nietzsche would look poorly on), and then gives them a dose of postmodern existentialist philosophy. I say postmodern because JP is super obviously highly influenced by postmodern thought, I think he just doesn't realize it.


I dunno. Is originality really how we measure thinkers? If there's one thing that happens as a person matures through academia (or at least, should happen), it's that they cast aside any delusions that they'll come up with a completely novel ideas, that will come in and transform their discipline from the ground up, and that, instead, most innovation is incremental, and has to do with creatively synthesizing ideas that are already out there with slight innovations.

Postmodernism is also a completely abused and distorted word that most people don't use very well or understand (myself included, although I prefer to abstain from using it rathe than abuse it). But, in general, I'm more inclined to associate it with French thinkers that arose in the 60s and 70s than with Heidegger and Nietzsche. That seems to be how Peterson talks about Postmodernism.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 7:31 AM #7153
Also recently realized why right wingers have a thing for blaming the federal reserve/fiat currency/inflation.

It's because, people have been struggling financially. People can't buy what they used to. The real reason is declining wages vs increased productivity. In other words, capitalists are doing a much better job at suppressing wages.

But if you're right wing you can't accept that, it's too class-warefarey, too left. So you have to invent some other reason for why peopl can't afford so much. So you invent conspiracy theories about out of control spending, central banks and whatnot to explain it.

It seems so plain, I don't know why I didn't realize it sooner.
2018-02-10, 7:31 AM #7154
Whatever the origins of the phrase "Cultural Marxism", I don't think it's fair to call it vacuous or meaningless. I think many who use it (especially in mainstream media) are pointing out three features of a certain ideology that's currently prevalent in the left. 1) it's a critique of American society that borrows from thinkers such as Foucault, who were influenced by Marx's critique of power 2) as a tactic, people absorbed in these ideas often polices speech that doesn't conform to that critique through shame 3) it's illberal (and, subset of that, because they associate Marx with the Soviet Union, they also associate the policing of speech with authoritarianism). Maybe you disagree with their characterization, and perhaps you're not wrong to point out that the origins of the terminology, but either way, I think it's a phrase that a person can use substantively as a kind of shorthand to refer to a certain sort of politics.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 9:06 AM #7155
Originally posted by Reid:
This is, again, bull****. Go into any history department and ask about this. Seriously, try it.

Even from what I can tell, the statement they should be responding to is in context, ideas like free speech or individual rights can be used to justify immoral, unethical or otherwise racist things, and that this describes how these ideas are used in politics today far better than a true academic understanding. That would be a harder position to argue against, and it's the one serious scholars would be more likely to agree with, so again, in debate club nerd terms, this is a huge strawman.


Just going back only a few pages:



What is the message of this video, if not "gun rights activists/lobbyists say they want everyone to have the right to bear arms, but they don't mean it, and what they really care about is preserving special privileges for whites"? I mean, I didn't have to look very hard to find an example of the sort of thing Sullivan is talking about. His characterization here doesn't seem altogether unfair: this is an argument that some on the left make.

(And please don't say "this is only one example" and make me crawl all over Twitter looking for more. Clearly, it's mainstream to say people are motivated to advocate a right to bear arms because of white supremacy and racism.)

(Also, I'm a little confused by what you're talking about with when you refer to an "academic understanding" here.)
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 9:17 AM #7156
Originally posted by Reid:
Also recently realized why right wingers have a thing for blaming the federal reserve/fiat currency/inflation.

It's because, people have been struggling financially. People can't buy what they used to. The real reason is declining wages vs increased productivity. In other words, capitalists are doing a much better job at suppressing wages.

But if you're right wing you can't accept that, it's too class-warefarey, too left. So you have to invent some other reason for why peopl can't afford so much. So you invent conspiracy theories about out of control spending, central banks and whatnot to explain it.

It seems so plain, I don't know why I didn't realize it sooner.


I think it has more to do with a skewed understanding of property rights. The idea goes, I work for my money, it's something I've achieved through my own labor, and therefore it's wrong that the government has the power to dilute my wealth with an inflationary monetary policy. That's also why libertarians are crazy about gold and want the gold standard again. They don't want government to have the power to arbitrarily decrease their wealth by printing more money.
former entrepreneur
2018-02-10, 1:38 PM #7157
Originally posted by Eversor:
What is the message of this video, if not "gun rights activists/lobbyists say they want everyone to have the right to bear arms, but they don't mean it, and what they really care about is preserving special privileges for whites"? I mean, I didn't have to look very hard to find an example of the sort of thing Sullivan is talking about. His characterization here doesn't seem altogether unfair: this is an argument that some on the left make.


That is certainly the message of that video. My contention is, it's simply not true that the left wants to replace individual liberties. What they're actually saying is, in this one case, individual liberty is cited and used hypocritically. It's really over the top to imply that the creators of that video are attacking individualism.

Originally posted by Eversor:
I think it has more to do with a skewed understanding of property rights. The idea goes, I work for my money, it's something I've achieved through my own labor, and therefore it's wrong that the government has the power to dilute my wealth with an inflationary monetary policy. That's also why libertarians are crazy about gold and want the gold standard again. They don't want government to have the power to arbitrarily decrease their wealth by printing more money.


That's an unrealistic fear, though. Where does that fear originate?
2018-02-10, 1:39 PM #7158
Originally posted by Eversor:
Whatever the origins of the phrase "Cultural Marxism", I don't think it's fair to call it vacuous or meaningless. I think many who use it (especially in mainstream media) are pointing out three features of a certain ideology that's currently prevalent in the left. 1) it's a critique of American society that borrows from thinkers such as Foucault, who were influenced by Marx's critique of power 2) as a tactic, people absorbed in these ideas often polices speech that doesn't conform to that critique through shame 3) it's illberal (and, subset of that, because they associate Marx with the Soviet Union, they also associate the policing of speech with authoritarianism). Maybe you disagree with their characterization, and perhaps you're not wrong to point out that the origins of the terminology, but either way, I think it's a phrase that a person can use substantively as a kind of shorthand to refer to a certain sort of politics.


I don't think people are shamed for disagreeing with Foucault...
2018-02-10, 1:51 PM #7159
I guess Jordan Peterson has read and advocated the ideas of Baudrillard, so we can conclude he's unequivocally a postmodern thinker.
2018-02-10, 2:11 PM #7160
Originally posted by Reid:
That's an unrealistic fear, though.


It's not unrealistic. Inflation happens, sometimes even intentionally. While inflation was low under Obama, If I recall correctly, the Obama administration actually tried and struggled to create inflation for the sake of economic stimulus. If there's something wrong with libertarians here, it's not that inflation/government policies won't ever decrease their wealth.
former entrepreneur
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