Uuuuuhh... I haven't pointed to anything as a "debate" on this topic. I'm genuinely confused, because there's so little consistency in your last post. Wait, are you high?
Look, I think we're talking past each other. I'm certainly not arguing that the state of American political discourse is in any way satisfactory. You might recall that this whole conversation started with me lamenting the fact that we don't have a real policy debate. But, to my mind, a real debate would mean getting finicky over the details. It would mean Democrats (not just in congress, but the public) mobilizing around certain issues, for example, a 25% corporate tax rate, instead of the 20% corporate tax rate that the Republicans initially proposed, and forcing Republicans to justify their policies to the public. Instead, Democrats mostly argued that the tax cut that most citizens would see was nothing compared to what the wealthy would get, which was kind of a awkward message, because it meant Nancy Pelosi, who's often seen as an out of touch elitist, telling people that the $1000 they were going to get in tax cuts was "paltry", when, to most people, it's a lot of money.