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Inauguration Day, Inauguration Hooooooraaay!
2019-10-08, 7:36 AM #15641
I sure didn’t think when I clicked that link I’d find that the ‘much more important thing that we should be talking about’ would involve video games.
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 7:39 AM #15642
Originally posted by Eversor:
I sure didn’t think when I clicked that link I’d find that the ‘much more important thing that we should be talking about’ would involve video games.


Shows how little I care about cancel culture hysteria
2019-10-08, 8:29 AM #15643
Originally posted by Reid:
Shows how little I care about cancel culture hysteria


Woah, careful there. If you keep saying over and over again that you don’t care at some point I might start to believe you!
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 10:42 AM #15644
Originally posted by Reid:
Hey, remember how we were talking about letting China 'cancel culture' people through our corporations is much more insidious than whatever people are freaking out about today about SJWs? First thing I find when I open the internet:

https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181442535962632193?s=19

Instead of spilling so much ink on a topic that pretty much doesn't matter, we should probably look a little harder at this.
Suppressing speech, teaching children to gamble... man, Blizzard loves violating our cultural norms. It’s sure lucky they live in a country that has rule of law and not in the country they’re actually loyal to.
2019-10-08, 11:11 AM #15645
Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.
2019-10-08, 12:53 PM #15646
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Suppressing speech, teaching children to gamble... man, Blizzard loves violating our cultural norms. It’s sure lucky they live in a country that has rule of law and not in the country they’re actually loyal to.


2010s are the decade of teaching children to gamble and getting them hooked on nicotine. Hey remember when Obama didn't go along with restricting tobacco companies from marketing vaping products as candy?

Originally posted by Jon`C:
Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.


Past two days? Is there something going on here I'm forgetting about?
2019-10-08, 12:57 PM #15647
It will be interesting when millennials have the lowest rates of lung cancer compared to generations around them.
2019-10-08, 1:13 PM #15648
Originally posted by Reid:
Let's not forget that the idea of 'deplatforming' your political opponents started as a Gamergate tactic to 'punish' gaming outlets for being 'anti-gamer'. Never started with the horrid SJWs.


lmao, what? The tactic of boycotting a public figure as a means of punishment for having said or done something found offensive or odious by the public is about as old as the civil rights movement itself. Glenn Beck and other AM radio hosts have been subject to advertising boycotts going back a decade. The idea of mass outcry followed by organized attempts to remove an offending party is extremely old, and has been with us for much of the public's consumption of broadcast media (and most certainly so long as the pulling by advertisers have been a lever for punishment).
2019-10-08, 1:19 PM #15649
And if you want something closer to Gamergate, look no further than Christian organizations in the 90's and probably 80's who were in a state of panic that satanic lyrics were poisoning the minds of our children and sought to censor, remove, and shelter from all forms of musical and television corruption on the minds of our children. Ditto for the very same sort of moral panic that communists were likewise poisoning the minds of our children.

Desperate attempts to remove those we oppose for their influence on the public are extremely old, and I could probably dig up tons more examples from the 2010's (Twitter) or even the 1990's/2000's (political correctness).
2019-10-08, 1:32 PM #15650
Originally posted by Reid:
Past two days? Is there something going on here I'm forgetting about?


NBA
2019-10-08, 1:58 PM #15651
Originally posted by Jon`C:
NBA


Ah yeah, heard a snippet and so I just read about it.

I have a feeling we're going to see bigger consequences for this on the road ahead.
2019-10-08, 2:14 PM #15652
Originally posted by Reid:
Ah yeah, heard a snippet and so I just read about it.

I have a feeling we're going to see bigger consequences for this on the road ahead.


Dear Nike,

Drop all NBA players or we will close your sweatshops.

Kind regards,

- the fascist Han supremacist government
2019-10-08, 4:15 PM #15653
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-idUSKBN1WN0CV

So....
2019-10-08, 4:31 PM #15654
Originally posted by Reverend Jones:
lmao, what? The tactic of boycotting a public figure as a means of punishment for having said or done something found offensive or odious by the public is about as old as the civil rights movement itself. Glenn Beck and other AM radio hosts have been subject to advertising boycotts going back a decade. The idea of mass outcry followed by organized attempts to remove an offending party is extremely old, and has been with us for much of the public's consumption of broadcast media (and most certainly so long as the pulling by advertisers have been a lever for punishment).


For Reid, cancel culture is “nothing new” and doesn’t exist, unless you can pin it on something that smacks of conservatism, in which case it’s definitely both exists and is bad, because of its conservative pedigree.
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 4:32 PM #15655
Originally posted by Reid:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-idUSKBN1WN0CV

So....


About time that someone stood up to the cancel culture mob, amirite???!
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 4:35 PM #15656
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Its exciting to see some of the most liberal of liberals in the business world so quickly change their stance on China over the last 2 days. Like:

‘Hey guys so I like totally believe in free trade and ****, but maybe the Chinese government trying to impose their social standards on foreign businesses as a precondition should be treated as the trade barrier that it really is.’

By this point yall don’t deserve a two handed applause for realizing this. Maybe one, if you guys will lend your face for the other half.


It’s making “liberals” look a little more like neocons
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 4:46 PM #15657
Originally posted by Eversor:
About time that someone stood up to the cancel culture mob, amirite???!


How petty
2019-10-08, 5:07 PM #15658
Originally posted by Reid:
How petty


It was just a joke! Surely three question marks is enough to signify sarcasm?
former entrepreneur
2019-10-08, 5:22 PM #15659
Originally posted by Eversor:
It’s making “liberals” look a little more like neocons


Sure seems like every businessman is a liberal, until they have to choose between being shut out from the Chinese market and losing business from rich westerners with morals.

Gummet plz tariff
2019-10-08, 5:22 PM #15660
Originally posted by Eversor:
It was just a joke! Surely three question marks is enough to signify sarcasm?


Ah, mb. Appreciate the humor even if I miss it
2019-10-08, 5:26 PM #15661
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Sure seems like every businessman is a liberal, until they have to choose between being shut out from the Chinese market and losing business from rich westerners with morals.

Gummet plz tariff


Wasn't the whole point of the Trans Pacific Partnership? free trade between everyone but China => basically a collective tariff on China.
2019-10-08, 5:38 PM #15662
Originally posted by Reid:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-idUSKBN1WN0CV

So....


Trump didn’t comply with congress’s russia sanctions and faced no consequences for it, so why would you think he would comply with anything else? Maybe next time don’t let a bunch of rural slave owning royalists dictate your constitution.
2019-10-08, 5:45 PM #15663
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Trump didn’t comply with congress’s russia sanctions and faced no consequences for it, so why would you think he would comply with anything else? Maybe next time don’t let a bunch of rural slave owning royalists dictate your constitution.


I mean, if this is how it is, then America is a failed state. No two ways about it.
2019-10-08, 5:53 PM #15664
Originally posted by Reid:
Wasn't the whole point of the Trans Pacific Partnership? free trade between everyone but China => basically a collective tariff on China.


The “newspaper of record” version was to exclude China and consolidate financial power around the United States. The way I read the TPP is actually to unify all of China’s major trading partners into a single bloc, so China is eventually forced to sign as a matter of survival (and therefore accept US capital and intellectual property ownership).

Of course that didn’t actually happen, because Trump is mentally disabled. And now Trump is trying to negotiate a separate free trade agreement with China from a much weaker negotiating position which will do nothing but cement the current relationship between the US and China. Which fortunately for you will amount to nothing, I guess, because neither country honours their treaties.
2019-10-08, 6:36 PM #15665
Originally posted by Jon`C:
The “newspaper of record” version was to exclude China and consolidate financial power around the United States. The way I read the TPP is actually to unify all of China’s major trading partners into a single bloc, so China is eventually forced to sign as a matter of survival (and therefore accept US capital and intellectual property ownership).

Of course that didn’t actually happen, because Trump is mentally disabled. And now Trump is trying to negotiate a separate free trade agreement with China from a much weaker negotiating position which will do nothing but cement the current relationship between the US and China. Which fortunately for you will amount to nothing, I guess, because neither country honours their treaties.


I'm guessing current TPP members don't want the US back even if we came back.
2019-10-08, 7:25 PM #15666
Originally posted by Reid:
I'm guessing current TPP members don't want the US back even if we came back.


I can only speak for one person in one of the signatories, but I don’t see any reason it would benefit me.
2019-10-08, 9:23 PM #15667
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/det18b/do_not_let_the_current_news_cycle_distract_you/

my favorite browse because the comments get progressively more out there as you go down
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2019-10-09, 6:51 AM #15668
My favorite is people mad at 'big tobacco' for banning vaping, when one of the products mentioned (Juul) is sold by Altira, a big tobacco company. Really sticking it to the little guy there, banning your own products, right? Someone even pointed this out and another replied "they're playing the long game"

What does any of this mean :confused:
2019-10-09, 2:16 PM #15669
Tracking the Blizzard censorship discussion (side note: I ****in hate that people have only finally woken up about this because of a ****in video game).

Over the last day I have seen a ridiculous number of people in the wild asking why it's not unconstitutional for American corporations to censor opinions voiced on their platforms. Apparently on some theory that they're "public companies", and therefore the constitution applies to them. And then I remembered this:

Originally posted by Wookie06:
Except it's not really a "private property" problem, is it? These social media companies are publicly traded companies


And, well, I guess I'm sorry for holding you to such a high standard, Wookie06. Apparently this isn't something you can just expect people to understand about their own country's laws.

Edit: And also apparently, there are a lot of Americans who I guess think they currently live under Stalinism? I mean really, if you guys think all publicly traded companies are apparatuses of the state, that's.... eh, whatever.
2019-10-09, 2:19 PM #15670
To be faaaaaaaaaair, corporations are the government now
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2019-10-09, 4:16 PM #15671
[https://i.redd.it/qhcal56j3jr31.jpg]

Not 100% of the translation. But it's basically something like that.

Edit: there's also some dispute that this is 'officially' Blizzard. Some are saying it's NetEase. If I can find a more authoritative source, I'll fix it.
2019-10-09, 4:34 PM #15672
Blizzard goodwill write down timer starts... now.
2019-10-09, 4:43 PM #15673
Oh hey, Blizzards now stonewalling people from closing their accounts and GDPR data deletes.

I guess one of the benefits of living in a country with the rule of law is they can treat fines from ignoring GDPR as a cost of doing business. If Bobby Kotick lived in China and behaved this way they’d put his family in a prison camp, execute him, and sell his organs.

hmm, maybe the Chinese system is fairer after all
2019-10-09, 8:17 PM #15674
Disappointed as all hell that Trump is dumping the SDF.. they were the one group in the region the U.S. militarily backed that I pretty much wholly supported. And he throws them under the bus to, I don't know, convince dictators he wants to kiss their ass?
2019-10-09, 8:36 PM #15675
I don't understand that move. Surely it will erode the trust of such potential allies in the future.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2019-10-09, 9:40 PM #15676
By all accounts Trump's actions are very erratic and illogical. It's safe to assume he's not acting on any cogent motivations.
2019-10-09, 9:59 PM #15677
I'm sure president self-dealer has some cogent motivation.
2019-10-09, 10:59 PM #15678
I’m confused as hell why after almost no attention has been paid to the Kurds by the US media since the fall out from the October 2017 referendum on independence there’s a sudden outcry of sympathy for the Kurds. Of all the things that would take over the news cycle after impeachment, why this?
former entrepreneur
2019-10-09, 11:14 PM #15679
I assume this is rhetorical confusion.
2019-10-10, 12:00 AM #15680
Originally posted by Eversor:
I’m confused as hell why after almost no attention has been paid to the Kurds by the US media since the fall out from the October 2017 referendum on independence there’s a sudden outcry of sympathy for the Kurds. Of all the things that would take over the news cycle after impeachment, why this?


Because there's recent news directly involving them?

I mean, I agree more people should have been paying attention. But I don't see why it would be surprising, since Trump just pulled out troops and Erdogan launched an attack, that it would be a topic of discussion.
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